Re: 1.4.1 bugs & suggestions

[Errol Smith <errol@ros.com.au>]

At 10:04 29/03/00 -0300, you wrote:
>You should get better results compiling yourself from the
>src.rpm or tar.bz2.

 I nuked ~/.xchat then reconfigured from defaults & things are a bit
cleaner now. I've been using xchat since before v1.0 so there was a lot of
old crap in there.

>| - I was going to say that notify is broken, but then I
>| noticed that the default notification interval was 15000,
>| not 15 seconds. You might want to change that. :-)
>| (probably just in the RPM)
>
>It's 15000 milliseconds, not seconds.

 Older versions had 15000, and it was still set to that. It is seconds,
maybe it used to be milliseconds.

>|  Anyway, notify doesnt activate as soon as you connect. It
>| seems to wait <notification interval> seconds before it
>| updates. It should really update as soon as you connect to
>| a [new] server.
>| Also the menus are greyed out when in the notify tab - why?
>
>It should activate when there's someone online that's on your
>notify list. If it waits 15 seconds or not, for me there's no
>difference (if it was 15 minutes...).

 This also seems to work fine now after the config wipe.

>| - away handling - alt-A and the menu option
>| work as toggles,
>| but /away seems to be independant of the menu or alt-a
>| settings. eg:
>| alt-a
>| --- You have been marked as being away
>| (menu indicates
>| I'm away)
>| /away
>| --- You are no longer marked as being away
>| (menu still
>| indicates I'm away)
>| alt-a
>| --- You are no longer marked as being away
>| (now
>| menu says I'm here)
>| /away reason
>| --- You have been marked as being
>| away
>| (menu still thinks I'm here)
>| etc..
>
>/away with a reason: away
>/away: back
>alt-a: away
>alt-a again: back
>
>So, the menu isn't refreshing? I don't have X-Chat on this
>machine to test it.

 Not just the menu, but xchat's internal status. It thinks you're away when
you're not & vice versa. As long as you use only /away or only the
menus/keybindings then you're fine, it's just using both where it gets
confused.

>| Future Features?:
>| -auto away
>| after X seconds inactivity
>
>Now that I'm one to have asked such feature, I disagree. auto
>away is lame, and various channels are banning people using
>it. But it may be easy to write a script (no, I'm not good at
>Perl).

 I agree it's annoying when the announcements are made publicly, but
auto-away is a good thing (IMO) when it's silent. (just so people know you
arent ignoring them when you've left the machine). The default setting is
not to publicly announce away's, and that's the way it should be.
 People generally get the picture pretty quick after they've been kicked or
told off for such annoying behaviour..

>| -have some simple keypress to switch between tabs (eg mirc
>| has ALT-Space)
>
>You can do that via keybindings. The default is meta1-1,
>meta1-2... For me it's fine.

 I found that eventually, and mapped alt-space to it which is good (alt = /
alt - are harder to touch type), but it won't wrap around when in relative
mode (it does in reverse but not forwards). Also in the keybinding editor,
you have to press enter in each option for it to register - clicking
elsewhere doesnt accept the value you typed.
 Also I'd still like it to switch to the next active window. I'm not
interested in inactive ones, coz I'v already read what's in them.. :)

>| -smarter nickname completion, for names with wierd chars
>| around them. eg many people have nicks like ^nick^, _nick_,
>| |nick|, [nick] etc, and it would be nice to just type 'n'
>| 'i' <tab> :-)
>
>Difficult, huh? If it's a small channel no problem, but what
>about a channel with >15 users? A lot will have 'n' and 'i' as
>letters. BTW, why people use ^,{,[,|,\,`?

 Well basically what I'm saying is have it ignore non-alphanumeric chars
when doing the matching with what you typed before hitting TAB. People use
those chars so they can still have the same nick but someone else uses it.
Some people just use it to be at the top or bottom of the userlist. Even
xchat's default is to add _'s around your name if the one you want is
taken.. It's just hard to type all those punctuation marks :-)

Errol

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