Re: Is this mail list dead?

[Pedro Rosa <Pedro.Rosa@ksu.ru>]

Rik van Riel wrote:

> On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, Pedro Rosa wrote:
> 
>> Note that Linux is not a OS with a very limited set of purposes. Don't
>> tell me that attempts to enforce a security scheme at core bottom will
>> not hinder such sections like real-time or clusters. So I think it is
>> too risky to put two things in one boat.
> 
> 
> Better remove BSD accounting and filesystem quota support
> from the kernel, then.

Maybe it would be a good move. In fact this thing works badly...

> 
> 
> I don't see anybody except you talking about huge, unwieldy,
> everything-but-the-second-kitchen-sink security schemes.

Ok Mr. van Riel better to care about your own kitchen and leave mine 
alone ok? I'm not speaking about any schemes or defending or supporting. 
And see if the sink is well cleaned before answering this.

> 
> 
> Now if you have _technical_ arguments for why adding things
> like audit trails (which can be easily compiled out) would
> make Linux a worse OS, please tell them.

Where am I saying that such things make Linux worse. Ok Mr. van Riel get 
the damn sink clean, get back, read all my posts and take the place 
where I'm saying such!

What I'm against is to add high security schemes into the main 
development structure. That's WRONG! You first are creating an illusion 
of security to people and second you may be destroying the flexibility 
of development. Now Mr. Smart Technician tell me that this will not 
happen. You cannot build a perfect security profile from start. If you 
say you can then your level of speciality is the same as the sink you 
talk about. And if you even don't get this then get another job. You're 
knowledge is worser than a bodyguard..

> 
> 
> Don't forget the roman rule ... the one who says it cannot
> be done should never interrupt the one doing it.

Ooooooooh. I'm soooo bad. I'm sooooooo pesty. Am I stopping you from 
doing anything? Am I kicking you from your job, calling anonymously your 
wife or walking behind your kid??? What the Hell are you? How the damn 
Hell are you to talk to me in this way? What kind of security expert you 
are? Look at your own writing. It sounds like a threat letter in cheap 
vocabulary and without one single correct argument. 

> 
> 
> regards,

Hope you have a good time with your sink soon...

> 
> 
> Rik
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