From nl-soft-bounce@nl.linux.org Tue Dec 24 08:38:07 2002 Received: from localhost.nl.linux.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]:12946 "EHLO humbolt.") by humbolt.nl.linux.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 24 Dec 2002 08:38:02 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list nl-soft); Tue, 24 Dec 2002 08:36:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from topaz.mdcc.cx ([IPv6:::ffff:212.204.230.141]:60625 "EHLO topaz.mdcc.cx") by humbolt.nl.linux.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 24 Dec 2002 08:36:18 +0100 Received: from yosida.mdcc.cx (a25011.upc-a.chello.nl [62.163.25.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by topaz.mdcc.cx (Postfix) with ESMTP id 030152B97C for ; Tue, 24 Dec 2002 08:36:16 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 5143 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2002 07:36:09 -0000 Received: from gelfand.mdcc.cx (qmailr@192.168.26.1) by yosida.mdcc.cx with SMTP; 24 Dec 2002 07:36:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 4906 invoked by uid 1000); 24 Dec 2002 07:36:08 -0000 Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 08:36:08 +0100 From: Joost van Baal To: manpages-nl lijst , nl-soft@nl.linux.org, documentatie@nllgg.nl, debian-l10n-dutch@lists.debian.org Subject: Looking for new maintainer of manpages-nl Message-ID: <20021224073608.GA28989@gelfand.mdcc.cx> Mail-Followup-To: manpages-nl lijst Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-PGP-Fingerprint: 8FC6 A40E 31B8 7E0E 2270 D7A9 0606 9CF2 9694 57F0 X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x969457F0 X-PGP-Key: http://mdcc.cx/~joostvb/joostvb_key.asc X-Accept-Language: nl, en X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests= version=2.20 X-Spam-Level: X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: nl-soft-bounce@nl.linux.org Errors-to: nl-soft-bounce@nl.linux.org X-original-sender: joostvb-manpages-nl-20021224-6@mdcc.cx Precedence: bulk Reply-to: nl-soft@nl.linux.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: nl-soft Return-Path: X-Envelope-To: <"| /bin/marchive -a -m -f /home/majordomo/public_html/nl-soft/folders/nl-soft"> (uid 0) X-Orcpt: rfc822;nl-soft-archive@nl.linux.org Original-Recipient: rfc822;nl-soft-archive@nl.linux.org --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, [ Mail-Followup-To: manpages-nl@nl.linux.org ] The manpages-nl package ( Manual Pages Translated into Dutch , http://nl.linux.org/doc/manpages.php ) hasn't been touched since 2001/12/21. AFAIC, the means this package isn't maintained upstream. The major part of the translations are made early 2001, from manpages shipped with Debian `potato'. Jos Boersema has done the translation work, I have done some of the packaging work. I no longer have time to keep doing the work, and Jos has lost interest. (Jos, correct me if I'm wrong here.) However, the package contains over 1 MB of manpage source (over 200 pages). It'd be a big shame if this excellent work (by Jos Boersema) would get lost forever. Therefore, I here sent out a last call for people willing to start maintaining this package. Infrastructure has been set up: a CVS repository is at :ext:fjordland.nl.linux.org:/home/CVS linuxorg/doc/man , browsable via http://nl.linux.org/doc/man/, there is a mailinglist ( http://mail.nl.linux.org/manpages-nl/ ). Of course I'm willing to give people who'd like to pick this up some help, if needed. The main issue is: make sure the various manpages are brought up-to-date, and release a new tarball. One might even want to release a tarball with only the ``most important'' pages updated. I've given a short how-to-get-started in http://mail.nl.linux.org/manpages-nl/2002-05/msg00000.html . Issues raised here were discussed earlier, see http://mail.nl.linux.org/manpages-nl/2002-04/msg00000.html . I surely hope things will get going again... Bye, Joost --=20 . . Joost van Baal . . . . http://mdcc.cx/ . . --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+CA5oBgac8paUV/ARAijlAJ4iBiK+WuHGFSJ+4/e3AqPMuSOpdwCgma1i PTXUCNMNEfA7/25pnHspvdk= =9Bwp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs-- -- NL-soft: Nederlandstalige GNU software Archive: http://mail.nl.linux.org/nl-soft/ FTP dir: ftp://ftp.nl.linux.org/pub/linux/nl-soft/ From nl-soft-bounce@nl.linux.org Thu Dec 26 15:33:54 2002 Received: from localhost.nl.linux.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]:45708 "EHLO humbolt.") by humbolt.nl.linux.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 26 Dec 2002 15:33:44 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list nl-soft); Thu, 26 Dec 2002 15:32:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtpzilla1.xs4all.nl ([IPv6:::ffff:194.109.127.137]:31248 "EHLO smtpzilla1.xs4all.nl") by humbolt.nl.linux.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 26 Dec 2002 15:31:55 +0100 Received: from mraha (a194-109-185-240.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.185.240]) by smtpzilla1.xs4all.nl (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id gBQEVi0m093864; Thu, 26 Dec 2002 15:31:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from joshb by mraha with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18RYoN-000095-00; Thu, 26 Dec 2002 15:16:35 +0100 To: debian-l10n-dutch@lists.debian.org, documentatie@nllgg.nl, manpages-nl@nl.linux.org, nl-soft@nl.linux.org Subject: Re: Looking for new maintainer of manpages-nl Message-Id: From: josX Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 15:16:35 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests= version=2.20 X-Spam-Level: X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: nl-soft-bounce@nl.linux.org Errors-to: nl-soft-bounce@nl.linux.org X-original-sender: joshb@xs4all.nl Precedence: bulk Reply-to: nl-soft@nl.linux.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: nl-soft Return-Path: X-Envelope-To: <"| /bin/marchive -a -m -f /home/majordomo/public_html/nl-soft/folders/nl-soft"> (uid 0) X-Orcpt: rfc822;nl-soft-archive@nl.linux.org Original-Recipient: rfc822;nl-soft-archive@nl.linux.org Joost wrote: >Hi, > >[ Mail-Followup-To: manpages-nl@nl.linux.org ] > >The manpages-nl package ( Manual Pages Translated into Dutch , >http://nl.linux.org/doc/manpages.php ) hasn't been touched since >2001/12/21. AFAIC, the means this package isn't maintained upstream. >The major part of the translations are made early 2001, from manpages >shipped with Debian `potato'. Jos Boersema has done the translation >work, I have done some of the packaging work. I no longer have time to >keep doing the work, and Jos has lost interest. (Jos, correct me if I'm >wrong here.) > >However, the package contains over 1 MB of manpage source (over 200 >pages). It'd be a big shame if this excellent work (by Jos Boersema) >would get lost forever. Therefore, I here sent out a last call for >people willing to start maintaining this package. > >Infrastructure has been set up: a CVS repository is at >:ext:fjordland.nl.linux.org:/home/CVS linuxorg/doc/man , browsable via >http://nl.linux.org/doc/man/, there is a mailinglist ( >http://mail.nl.linux.org/manpages-nl/ ). Of course I'm willing to give >people who'd like to pick this up some help, if needed. The main issue >is: make sure the various manpages are brought up-to-date, and release a >new tarball. One might even want to release a tarball with only the >``most important'' pages updated. I've given a short how-to-get-started >in http://mail.nl.linux.org/manpages-nl/2002-05/msg00000.html . > >Issues raised here were discussed earlier, see >http://mail.nl.linux.org/manpages-nl/2002-04/msg00000.html . > >I surely hope things will get going again... > >Bye, > >Joost > >--=20 > . . >Joost van Baal . . > . . http://mdcc.cx/ > . . As a new maintaining/-er the German manpage package structure could be approached, i have talked with the guy (at Linux congress) and he had a method of distributed translation which he said could also work for (and encompass) the Dutch manpages. I had the impression it were "big plans", and was very well set up and running. (It works by letting people subscribe, and getting minimal (sentence/..) translation tasks send to them, which they then perform & send in.) -- jos ___ / | \ ( | ) \/|\/ -- NL-soft: Nederlandstalige GNU software Archive: http://mail.nl.linux.org/nl-soft/ FTP dir: ftp://ftp.nl.linux.org/pub/linux/nl-soft/