Re: Thank God for Yudit.

[Simos Xenitellis <simos74@xxxxxxx>]

Στις 21/Φεβ/2005, ημέρα Δευτέρα και ώρα 12:31, ο/η Elvis Presley έγραψε:
> Thanks for the help.
> 
> I never would have found the GNOME indicator control panel alone, well, maybe
> in 100 years. :)
> 
> Elvis
> 
> > --- "Simos Xenitellis" <simos74@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > As a GNOME user, my preferred method is to use GTK+ IM (yes, there is
> > such a thing). Assuming you are running GNOME, you
> 
> > 1. Make sure that no changes in xorg.conf are in place.That is, you have
> > a vanilla system with regards to input methods, so we do not have
> > interference..
> 
> My xorg.conf is full of settings... I haven't changed anything,
> but I don't know exactly what you mean by "vanilla." I proceed anyway...

By vanilla I meant not setting and XKB-related options. OK.

> > 2. Right-click on the panel
> > Add to Panel/Utility/Keyboard Indicator
> 
> , ... it works! I've got the indicator on the
> panel.

Here you type Greek but it's not shown properly. You are using Yahoo!
Mail which is doing a bad job with languages other than English.
Yahoo! Mail (and Hotmail) started out by using 8-bit encodings for the
mails and are slow to improve.
A better option is to try GMail as it defaults to Unicode and UTF-8. I
just sent you a GMail invite, I hope you make use of it.

> > Strangely enough, apart from Indicator, it's also a Keyboard switcher.
> > Once done, you will see the string "USA" on your panel. Right-click on
> > it and choose "Open Keyboard Preferences". Go to "Layouts" and choose
> > the languages you want to use. Safe choices are "US English" and
> > "Greek", or you might go for "UK English" and "Greek".
> > You can add up to four languages in the list.
> 
> I've got two languages, USA and Greek, but I can't add any others, the
> configuration error message appears.

What does the error message say?
What distribution are you using?
Can you show a screenshot of the error message?
The typical action in such a case is to search in Google using the error
message. Try first to enclose the error message in double quotes (such
as in "Error 3982: Cannot load XYZ") which most probably will lead you
to a similar report.

> > Then, click on "Layout Options". Here we choose the key combination to
> > switch between language. I prefer under "Group Shirt/Ctrl behavior" to
> > use both Shift keys. Choose which you prefer.
> > Click ok and you are done!
> 
> I see what you mean... I like "Both Alt keys together change group," but I
> can't add the shortcut, because the configuration error message appears. 

Show what's the error message.

> > How to test?
> > Open up "gedit" (Start/Accessories/Text Editor on Fedora Core). 
> > Switch language and enjoy typing.
> 
> Yes, it works. I can now type in Greek in GNOME! I can change the keymaps
> by clicking on the indicator.
> 
> > Right-click inside the Text Editor and you get an option to choose Input
> > Methods. Here, you will see Default (GTK+ IM) and X Input Method (XIM).
> > Default is good.
> 
> > Oh, tell me if you see something called "Internet/Intranet" in the list.
> > Do not use setxkbmap with GTK+ IM, it will mess it up.
> 
> "" (Default) is set, but it doesn't show GTK+ IM. I guess
> I'm
> still working with XKB. [No problem, I'm happy to be able to select the
> keymap with the mouse and type in Greek.] There are 10 selections, XIM is
> the last one, but no "Internet/Intranet" in the list.

The "Internet/Intranet" does not show because you do not have the IIIMF packages installed.
If you have FC3, check out
http://fedora.redhat.com/projects/i18n/iiimf-faq.html
Talking about Fedora and Red Hat, the latter commited last year to
support IIIMF as the input method to use.
IIIMF is platform-independent. Suppose there is Unicode support on the
Linux console in the future (through framebuffer), IIIMF could be used
there as well. As well in Windows, OS/X, and more...

Simos


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