pine & mutt utf8 support

[oldo <oldo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hello, dear Mark Crispin!

I have read the comment on pine and utf8 that you have given to
Markus Kuhn (unicode-utf8-faq maintainer) some months ago:

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Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 19:13:55 +0100
From: Markus Kuhn <Markus.Kuhn@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
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>[..] and he [Mark Crispin] replied:
>"This is indeed very exciting news. [...] I am also willing to cooperate
>with your group.  I've had a personal interest in full i18n in Pine for
>several years.  Much of the low-level work for UTF-8 in Pine is already
>done; the main missing piece is code to generate text in a non-UTF-8
>charset."
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So now since I am a happy _*_pine_*_ user and it is the default text-based
mail reader at our lab (coli.uni-sb.de) I would like to know, how things
are evolving concerning pines unicode support. We are a really international
faculty, so multilingual email is a frequent issue. Some folks started
using Netscape Messenger or even ms-win apps due to that. :-(

Since I prefer the Unix text-UI way (btw: We run SunOS and Redhat
GNU/Linux at the lab) and to check what *_mutt_* is capable of, I have now
installed "mutt-utf8" which is actually a patched mutt version by Edmund
Grimley Evans as described at:

http://www.rano.org/mutt.html

It works quite well in combination with a recent libutf8 installation and
xterm-utf8 as provided by Bruno Haible (iconv) and Robert Brady (xterm).

But since I would prefer to stick with pine I'd like to know whether the
same utf8 capabilities are already there for it ... ??

On October 2001 this was apparently not the case according to another mail
excerpt at the end of this writing.

I would highly appreciate your comments :-)

cheers

Oliver Doepner
Department of Computational Linguistics
University of the Saarland
http://www.coli.uni-sb.de/~oldo/
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Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 14:10:16 +0200 (MEST)
From: Roman Czyborra <czyborra@xxxxxx>
Reply-To: linux-utf8@xxxxxxxxxxxx
To: Roozbeh Pournader <roozbeh@xxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: linux-utf8@xxxxxxxxxxxx, i18n@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: UTF-8 in Pine

>On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, Roozbeh Pournader wrote:
>
> > What does still break under UTF-8 and needs to be fixed?
> My main problem has been pine. First of all it doesn't pass 0x80-0x9F to
> the terminal, and second it doesn't have automatic charset conversion, so
> I have problems with messages in ISO-8859-x. In short, almost nothing
> works with pine.

You might want to try Pine's features [x] pass-control-characters-as-is
and
display-filters=_CHARSET(ISO-8859-1)_ /usr/bin/iconv -f ISO-8859-1-t UTF-8
and 2UTF conversion in your .procmailrc.

Pine 4.30 has just been released, see http://www.washington.edu/pine/.
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