Re: [highmem bug report against -test5 and -test6] Re: [PATCH] Re:simple FS application that hangs 2.4-test5, mem mgmt problem or FS buffercache mgmt problem? (fwd)

[Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>]

On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> Basically the ordered write case will need extra logic, and we
> might as well put the effort in just one place anyway. Note that
> the page case isn't necessarily any harder in the end - the
> simple solution might be something like just adding a generation
> count to the buffer head, and having try_to_free_buffers() just
> refuse to write stuff out before that generation has come to
> pass.

That is another one of the very wrong (im)possibilities ;)

The VM is doing page aging and should, for page replacement
efficiency, only write out OLD pages. This can conflict with
the write ordering constraints in such a way that the system
will never get around to flushing out the only writable page
we have at that moment -> livelock.

Also, you cannot do try_to_free_buffers() on delayed allocation
pages, simply because these pages haven't been allocated yet
and just don't have any buffer heads attached ...

The idea Stephen and I have to solve this problem is to have
a callback into the filesystem [page->mapping->flush(page)],
so the filesystem can take care of filesystem-specific issues
and the VM subsystem takes care of VM-specific issues.

Without the need for any of the two to know much about each other.

regards,

Rik
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