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From: Jari Ruusu <jariruusu@users.sourceforge.net>
To: Jan Klod <janklodvan@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: raid1 with loop-aes
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Jan Klod wrote:
> Sure, that is a better way! Previously superblock was encrypted too
> (what information it contains?)

Info about what component device that device is, and of what MD device.

> But why should one write:
> 
> losetup -d /dev/loop1
> mount -t ext3 /dev/md0 /mnt -o loop=/dev/loop1,encryption=AES128,gpgkey=/etc/foo.gpg
> 
> insted of just:
> 
> mount /dev/loop1 /mnt ?

When mount is told to set up loop device, it also updates /etc/mtab so that
umount knows to detach the loop device. Two ways of doing it:

1) mount -t ext3 /dev/md0 /mnt -o loop=/dev/loop1,encryption=AES128,gpgkey=/etc/foo.gpg
   umount /mnt

or

2) losetup -e AES128 -K /etc/foo.gpg /dev/loop1 /dev/md0
   mount -t ext3 /dev/loop1 /mnt
   umount /mnt
   losetup -d /dev/loop1

I prefer the first one. And when mount finds device and mount options from
/etc/fstab file, you can shrink the commands to:

   mount /mnt
   umount /mnt

> a) in checkroot init script after root partition has been checked insert
> 
> ebegin "Starting multi disk array"
>         /sbin/mdadm -A /dev/md0 /dev/hda2 /dev/hdb4

If you are using MSDOS style partition tables, then you can change partition
types using fdisk to type FD (Linux raid autodetect). In that case kernel
will set up those MD devices automatically when kernel boots.

Works ok for /boot and root file systems, root file system encrypted or not.
At least lilo bootloader can be configured to be linux software RAID1 aware,
and it will boot ok from either RAID1 component disk in case other RAID1
component disk has gone completely dead. I have tested this by disconnecting
a disk. Not sure if lilo bootloader recovers from errors smaller than "dead
disk", such as some reads completed ok and then some read errors.

> echo "20+ character password" | losetup -p 0 -e AES128 -K /etc/foo.gpg /dev/loop1 /dev/md0

losetup has -P option that reads 65-line cleartext key file that isn't
wrapped in gpg encryption.

 head -c 3705 /dev/random | uuencode -m - | head -n 66 | tail -n 65 >/etc/foo.txt

 losetup -e AES128 -P /etc/foo.txt /dev/loop1 /dev/md0

> How big vulnerability is that password written in init file?

Root file system where those init scripts reside, must be encrypted.

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Just wondering if the suject line will have the updated loop-aes
to encrypt root, home and user and swap?
I am aware that Max is working on this but not sure if its been completed



rodger
-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 13:34:43 +0300
> Von: Jari Ruusu <jariruusu@users.sourceforge.net>
> An: Jan Klod <janklodvan@gmail.com>
> CC: linux-crypto@nl.linux.org
> Betreff: Re: raid1 with loop-aes

> Jan Klod wrote:
> > Sure, that is a better way! Previously superblock was encrypted too
> > (what information it contains?)
> 
> Info about what component device that device is, and of what MD device.
> 
> > But why should one write:
> > 
> > losetup -d /dev/loop1
> > mount -t ext3 /dev/md0 /mnt -o
> loop=/dev/loop1,encryption=AES128,gpgkey=/etc/foo.gpg
> > 
> > insted of just:
> > 
> > mount /dev/loop1 /mnt ?
> 
> When mount is told to set up loop device, it also updates /etc/mtab so
> that
> umount knows to detach the loop device. Two ways of doing it:
> 
> 1) mount -t ext3 /dev/md0 /mnt -o
> loop=/dev/loop1,encryption=AES128,gpgkey=/etc/foo.gpg
>    umount /mnt
> 
> or
> 
> 2) losetup -e AES128 -K /etc/foo.gpg /dev/loop1 /dev/md0
>    mount -t ext3 /dev/loop1 /mnt
>    umount /mnt
>    losetup -d /dev/loop1
> 
> I prefer the first one. And when mount finds device and mount options from
> /etc/fstab file, you can shrink the commands to:
> 
>    mount /mnt
>    umount /mnt
> 
> > a) in checkroot init script after root partition has been checked insert
> > 
> > ebegin "Starting multi disk array"
> >         /sbin/mdadm -A /dev/md0 /dev/hda2 /dev/hdb4
> 
> If you are using MSDOS style partition tables, then you can change
> partition
> types using fdisk to type FD (Linux raid autodetect). In that case kernel
> will set up those MD devices automatically when kernel boots.
> 
> Works ok for /boot and root file systems, root file system encrypted or
> not.
> At least lilo bootloader can be configured to be linux software RAID1
> aware,
> and it will boot ok from either RAID1 component disk in case other RAID1
> component disk has gone completely dead. I have tested this by
> disconnecting
> a disk. Not sure if lilo bootloader recovers from errors smaller than
> "dead
> disk", such as some reads completed ok and then some read errors.
> 
> > echo "20+ character password" | losetup -p 0 -e AES128 -K /etc/foo.gpg
> /dev/loop1 /dev/md0
> 
> losetup has -P option that reads 65-line cleartext key file that isn't
> wrapped in gpg encryption.
> 
>  head -c 3705 /dev/random | uuencode -m - | head -n 66 | tail -n 65
> >/etc/foo.txt
> 
>  losetup -e AES128 -P /etc/foo.txt /dev/loop1 /dev/md0
> 
> > How big vulnerability is that password written in init file?
> 
> Root file system where those init scripts reside, must be encrypted.
> 
> -- 
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Jari Ruusu wrote:
> I will look into this. Maybe next weekend.

http://loop-aes.sourceforge.net/updates/util-linux-ng-2.13-1.diff.bz2
http://loop-aes.sourceforge.net/updates/util-linux-ng-2.13-1.diff.bz2.sign

I did quick tests using above patch, and it seemed to work ok.

However, you will need a bleeding edge distro to compile that. It won't
compile on all boxes. util-linux-2.12r and earlier are compatible with many
distros, including older ones. It's pretty sad to see such excellent
compatibility ruined by this "new" -ng version.  :(

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First, thanks to Jari for explanations!
>> How big vulnerability is that password written in init file?
>>     
>
> Root file system where those init scripts reside, must be encrypted.
>   
I have no doubts about that, but I consider the case when that 
information (key or password) somehow leaks out to another file, that is 
accessible to all.
And if someone persuade me to execute some sophisticated attack code (or 
build it into programs, that I install), the keys can be stolen pretty 
easily!
I was new to linux some six months ago and now I both have no time and 
necessity to build such a monstrous protection system, but I'm planning 
to start with Gentoo RSBAC some day.
I am sure that vanilla kernel must be modified, because it supposes, 
that all installed stuff does exactly what it is supposed to. But how 
the hell can I check all those sources?! And I still want my workstation 
to be user-friendly and having all necessary software...
Any comments about RSBAC?

To Markus:

 > have you (successfully) tinkered with Alon's approach to things?
- No. Suspend is not a critical requirement for me and since I didn't 
understood Alon's provided information good enough, suspend for me is 
suspended.
 > just be as verbose as you possibly can.
- Ok!

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On Sun, Sep 02, 2007 at 07:21:46PM +0300, Jari Ruusu wrote:
> However, you will need a bleeding edge distro to compile that. It won't
> compile on all boxes. util-linux-2.12r and earlier are compatible with many
> distros, including older ones. It's pretty sad to see such excellent
> compatibility ruined by this "new" -ng version.  :(

Do you have any examples? I'm open for patches that improve
compatibility.

    Karel

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Karel Zak wrote:
> Do you have any examples? I'm open for patches that improve
> compatibility.

Try compiling using gcc-2.95

Or this: (on Debian 3.1)

# CC=gcc-3.3 CFLAGS="-O2 -Wall" ./configure
[snip]
# make
[snip]
make[2]: Entering directory `/tmp/util-linux-ng-2.13/login-utils'
if gcc-3.3 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I..  -DMAIN_TEST_CHECKTTY -include ../config.h -I../include -DLOCALEDIR=\"\"  -fsigned-char -O2 -Wall -MT checktty_test-checktty.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/checktty_test-checktty.Tpo" -c -o checktty_test-checktty.o `test -f 'checktty.c' || echo './'`checktty.c; \
then mv -f ".deps/checktty_test-checktty.Tpo" ".deps/checktty_test-checktty.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/checktty_test-checktty.Tpo"; exit 1; fi
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then mv -f ".deps/agetty.Tpo" ".deps/agetty.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/agetty.Tpo"; exit 1; fi
agetty.c: In function `do_prompt':
agetty.c:887: error: `HOST_NAME_MAX' undeclared (first use in this function)
agetty.c:887: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
agetty.c:887: error: for each function it appears in.)
agetty.c:887: warning: unused variable `domainname'
agetty.c:900: warning: unused variable `host'
agetty.c:995: warning: unused variable `hn'
make[2]: *** [agetty.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/util-linux-ng-2.13/login-utils'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/util-linux-ng-2.13'
make: *** [all] Error 2

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* Karel Zak <kzak@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 02, 2007 at 07:21:46PM +0300, Jari Ruusu wrote:
> > However, you will need a bleeding edge distro to compile that. It won't
> > compile on all boxes. util-linux-2.12r and earlier are compatible with =
many
> > distros, including older ones. It's pretty sad to see such excellent
> > compatibility ruined by this "new" -ng version.  :(
>=20
> Do you have any examples? I'm open for patches that improve
> compatibility.

Well, your question makes me wonder on which platforms you test your
-ng code (and why those?).

So, I ran simple some "./configure && make" tests on slackware 12,
11, 10.2, and 10.0 (both plain source of -ng and Jari's patch
applied). You seem to be "in the clear" of some serious slackware
wrath, it seems. ;p

Anyhow, why -ng in the first place; what's wrong with mainline
util-linux? A link will do, just curious.

--=20
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* Ahmad Warsame <awarsame@bbm.ca> wrote:

> Can anyone tel me how I can unsubscribe this.

You can't; as a Senior System Admin you are stuck with this for life.

Seriously.=20


> Thanks

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On Mon, 2007-09-03 13:08:35 -0400, Ahmad Warsame <awarsame@bbm.ca> wrote:
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In each and every mail going over this list, you'll find the needed
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* Alon Bar-Lev <alon.barlev@gmail.com> wrote:

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That page has been dead for days. Was it moved?

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On 9/2/07, Jari Ruusu <jariruusu@users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> Jari Ruusu wrote:
> > I will look into this. Maybe next weekend.
>
> http://loop-aes.sourceforge.net/updates/util-linux-ng-2.13-1.diff.bz2
> http://loop-aes.sourceforge.net/updates/util-linux-ng-2.13-1.diff.bz2.sign
>
> I did quick tests using above patch, and it seemed to work ok.
>

Thanks!

I am having a problem with missing asm/page.h:

if i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I..  -DMAIN -include
../config.h -I../include -DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/locale\"
-fsigned-char -O3 -march=pentium-m -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -MT
losetup-aes.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/losetup-aes.Tpo" -c -o losetup-aes.o
`test -f 'aes.c' || echo './'`aes.c; \
        then mv -f ".deps/losetup-aes.Tpo" ".deps/losetup-aes.Po";
else rm -f ".deps/losetup-aes.Tpo"; exit 1; fi
if i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I..  -include
../config.h -I../include -DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/locale\"
-fsigned-char -O3 -march=pentium-m -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -MT
swapon.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/swapon.Tpo" -c -o swapon.o swapon.c; \
        then mv -f ".deps/swapon.Tpo" ".deps/swapon.Po"; else rm -f
".deps/swapon.Tpo"; exit 1; fi
swapon.c:31:22: error: asm/page.h: No such file or directory


Can you please add loop-aes to the diff file name?

Best Regards,
Alon Bar-Lev.

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Oh...
I am using:
sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.21

On 9/5/07, Alon Bar-Lev <alon.barlev@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/2/07, Jari Ruusu <jariruusu@users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> > Jari Ruusu wrote:
> > > I will look into this. Maybe next weekend.
> >
> > http://loop-aes.sourceforge.net/updates/util-linux-ng-2.13-1.diff.bz2
> > http://loop-aes.sourceforge.net/updates/util-linux-ng-2.13-1.diff.bz2.sign
> >
> > I did quick tests using above patch, and it seemed to work ok.
> >
>
> Thanks!
>
> I am having a problem with missing asm/page.h:
>
> if i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I..  -DMAIN -include
> ../config.h -I../include -DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/locale\"
> -fsigned-char -O3 -march=pentium-m -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -MT
> losetup-aes.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/losetup-aes.Tpo" -c -o losetup-aes.o
> `test -f 'aes.c' || echo './'`aes.c; \
>         then mv -f ".deps/losetup-aes.Tpo" ".deps/losetup-aes.Po";
> else rm -f ".deps/losetup-aes.Tpo"; exit 1; fi
> if i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I..  -include
> ../config.h -I../include -DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/locale\"
> -fsigned-char -O3 -march=pentium-m -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -MT
> swapon.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/swapon.Tpo" -c -o swapon.o swapon.c; \
>         then mv -f ".deps/swapon.Tpo" ".deps/swapon.Po"; else rm -f
> ".deps/swapon.Tpo"; exit 1; fi
> swapon.c:31:22: error: asm/page.h: No such file or directory
>
>
> Can you please add loop-aes to the diff file name?
>
> Best Regards,
> Alon Bar-Lev.
>

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Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
> I am having a problem with missing asm/page.h:
[snip]
> swapon.c:31:22: error: asm/page.h: No such file or directory

mount/swapon.c line 31 containing "#include <asm/page.h>" can be removed.
Long time ago swapon.c needed something from that include file, but any
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Jari Ruusu wrote:
> mount/swapon.c line 31 containing "#include <asm/page.h>" can be removed.
> Long time ago swapon.c needed something from that include file, but any
> more.                                                              ^

Make that "but not any more"

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Working!!!
Thanks for quick response!

Karel, there is a minor issue with static build.
When try to build static, the HAVE__PROGNAME is not detected correctly
and causes linkage fail.
Can you please add --enable-static so that some basic utilities such
as losetup may be build statically?

The old util-linux supported static build.

Best Regards,
Alon Bar-Lev.

On 9/6/07, Jari Ruusu <jariruusu@users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> Jari Ruusu wrote:
> > mount/swapon.c line 31 containing "#include <asm/page.h>" can be removed.
> > Long time ago swapon.c needed something from that include file, but any
> > more.                                                              ^
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> Make that "but not any more"
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* rodger ellis <rellis@gmx.net> wrote:

> http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.kernel/browse_thread/thread/b=
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It certainly is of interest to Max Vozeler, and all Debian users
lurking; it definitely complicates things for Debian users.

Slackware 12 ships with CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=3Dy, so ... welcome to the
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well yes after a second look it is a complication.
just as a personal point the 'n' and 'm" keys are next to each
other on my keypad possible typo?



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> http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.kernel/browse_thread/thread/b53dfc2c858687a0/4a5993178f83bb67
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> It certainly is of interest to Max Vozeler, and all Debian users
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> Slackware 12 ships with CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=y, so ... welcome to the
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Hi all, Hi Eero,

On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 08:35:42PM +0200, markus reichelt wrote:
> * rodger ellis <rellis@gmx.net> wrote:
> 
> > http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.kernel/browse_thread/thread/b53dfc2c858687a0/4a5993178f83bb67
> 
> It certainly is of interest to Max Vozeler, and all Debian users
> lurking; it definitely complicates things for Debian users.

This is not actually a fundamental problem with the Debian kernel,
or other kernels configured with CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=m.

| When trying to mount a device crypted with loop-aes I get this error:
| ioctl: LOOP_MULTI_KEY_SETUP_V3: Invalid argument

This error usually indicates that the wrong (as in: "not loop-AES")
loop module is loaded into the kernel.

 a) There is no loop-aes-modules-$KERNEL package installed for
    the running kernel, and the "normal" loop module gets auto-
    loaded. Make sure that you have such a package installed for
    your running kernel:

      $ dpkg -s loop-aes-modules-$(uname -r) | grep Status
      Status: install ok installed

 b) The loop-aes-modules-$KERNEL package was installed _after_ 
    the "normal" loop module was already loaded. In that case, 
    reloading loop should get you the correct module:
     
      # rmmod loop; modprobe -v loop

    Note that you should need to do this only once. The packages 
    are setup in such a way that the loop-AES module takes pre-
    cedence over the normal in-kernel loop module.

If that still doesn't work, we're looking at a as-of-yet unknown
problem, but likely one in the Debian loop-AES packages, and not in
the Debian kernel or loop-AES itself. I would appreciate if you 
could file a bug against the package "loop-aes" in that case.

| The loop-aes documentation says that CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP must be set to "n",
| but in Debian Etch it is set to "m". Could this be changed to "n"?

This should not be necessary. 

There is no fundamental incompatiblity between loop-AES and the
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=m setting in Debian kernels. 

Since the introduction of module-init-tools for 2.6, it is possible
for a module to "override" a kernel-shipped version of the same module,
by being installed in the /lib/modules/$KERNEL/updates directory; This
is what Debian loop-aes-modules-$KERNEL packages do for loop.ko

Having the normal loop module available can complicate module loading
in some corner cases, one of which you probably experienced (but let's
find out). Ruling out such problems is, I suppose, the reason for the 
recommendation for CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=n in the loop-AES documentation.

I'll make this more clear in README.Debian of the loop-AES packages 
and add a postinst check for an already loaded loop module.

	Max

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On Sat, 2007-09-15 at 22:45 +0200, Max Vozeler wrote:
> Hi all, Hi Eero,
> 
> On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 08:35:42PM +0200, markus reichelt wrote:
> > * rodger ellis <rellis@gmx.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.kernel/browse_thread/thread/b53dfc2c858687a0/4a5993178f83bb67
> > 
> > It certainly is of interest to Max Vozeler, and all Debian users
> > lurking; it definitely complicates things for Debian users.
> 
> This is not actually a fundamental problem with the Debian kernel,
> or other kernels configured with CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=m.
> 
> | When trying to mount a device crypted with loop-aes I get this error:
> | ioctl: LOOP_MULTI_KEY_SETUP_V3: Invalid argument
> 
> This error usually indicates that the wrong (as in: "not loop-AES")
> loop module is loaded into the kernel.
> 
>  a) There is no loop-aes-modules-$KERNEL package installed for
>     the running kernel, and the "normal" loop module gets auto-
>     loaded. Make sure that you have such a package installed for
>     your running kernel:
> 
>       $ dpkg -s loop-aes-modules-$(uname -r) | grep Status
>       Status: install ok installed
> 
>  b) The loop-aes-modules-$KERNEL package was installed _after_ 
>     the "normal" loop module was already loaded. In that case, 
>     reloading loop should get you the correct module:
>      
>       # rmmod loop; modprobe -v loop
> 
>     Note that you should need to do this only once. The packages 
>     are setup in such a way that the loop-AES module takes pre-
>     cedence over the normal in-kernel loop module.
> 
> If that still doesn't work, we're looking at a as-of-yet unknown
> problem, but likely one in the Debian loop-AES packages, and not in
> the Debian kernel or loop-AES itself. I would appreciate if you 
> could file a bug against the package "loop-aes" in that case.
> 
> | The loop-aes documentation says that CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP must be set to "n",
> | but in Debian Etch it is set to "m". Could this be changed to "n"?
> 
> This should not be necessary. 
> 
> There is no fundamental incompatiblity between loop-AES and the
> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=m setting in Debian kernels. 
> 
> Since the introduction of module-init-tools for 2.6, it is possible
> for a module to "override" a kernel-shipped version of the same module,
> by being installed in the /lib/modules/$KERNEL/updates directory; This
> is what Debian loop-aes-modules-$KERNEL packages do for loop.ko
> 
> Having the normal loop module available can complicate module loading
> in some corner cases, one of which you probably experienced (but let's
> find out). Ruling out such problems is, I suppose, the reason for the 
> recommendation for CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=n in the loop-AES documentation.
> 
> I'll make this more clear in README.Debian of the loop-AES packages 
> and add a postinst check for an already loaded loop module.
> 
> 	Max

Hi and thanks for an advice!
Loop-aes module was installed, but I think there was some wrong loop
module loaded. Command "rmmod loop; modprobe -v loop" did not work
because cryptoloop was already using the loop module. I tried to load
all kinds of modules earlier to get loop-aes working and I wasn't sure
which modules were necessary anymore so I rebooted the machine. After it
came up I was able to mount loop-aes encrypted disks and those encrypted
disks that were made during Debian installation (cryptsetup with LUKS).
It seems like the correct loop module loads only after rebooting.
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* Max Vozeler <max@nusquama.org> wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 08:35:42PM +0200, markus reichelt wrote:
> > * rodger ellis <rellis@gmx.net> wrote:
> >=20
> > > http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.kernel/browse_thread/thre=
ad/b53dfc2c858687a0/4a5993178f83bb67
> >=20
> > It certainly is of interest to Max Vozeler, and all Debian users
> > lurking; it definitely complicates things for Debian users.
>=20
> This is not actually a fundamental problem with the Debian kernel,
> or other kernels configured with CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=3Dm.

I misinterpreted the report as: loop-AES no longer works with
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=3Dm under Debian.

One of the drawbacks of a package system; users trust it too much
when they fiddle with their system.=20

Does the Debian loop-AES package contain loop-AES modules and patched
util-linux? If so, then how do people still manage to confuse things
like that?

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Hi,

I use the following command to create a certificate request.

openssl req -new -nodes -out new-req.pem -keyout new-key.pem

But this command demands country, state, organization name, email etc.
information from command line like the following example. I don' t want to
enter country, state, organization name etc from command line like this
example. I want to add this information (country, name, email etc) with some
parameters like "-country TR -state KOCAELI ..."  to openssl command.  How
can I do this?

# openssl req -new -nodes -out new-req.pem -keyout new-key.pem

Generating a 1024 bit RSA private key
..................................++++++
.........................++++++
writing new private key to 'new-key.pem'
-----
You are about to be asked to enter information that will be incorporated
into your certificate request.
What you are about to enter is what is called a Distinguished Name or a DN.
There are quite a few fields but you can leave some blank
For some fields there will be a default value,
If you enter '.', the field will be left blank.
-----
Country Name (2 letter code) [AU]:TR
State or Province Name (full name) [Some-State]:KOCAELI
Locality Name (eg, city) []:GEBZE
Organization Name (eg, company) [Internet Widgits Pty Ltd]:TUBITAK-UEKEAE
Organizational Unit Name (eg, section) []:OpenTC
Common Name (eg, YOUR name) []:Kadir
Email Address []:kadir@test.opentc.com

Please enter the following 'extra' attributes
to be sent with your certificate request
A challenge password []:test
An optional company name []:uekae

Sincerelly,
Kadir.

       
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Hey Markus,

On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 02:40:02PM +0200, markus reichelt wrote:
> I misinterpreted the report as: loop-AES no longer works with
> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=m under Debian.
> 
> One of the drawbacks of a package system; users trust it too much
> when they fiddle with their system. 
> 
> Does the Debian loop-AES package contain loop-AES modules and patched
> util-linux? If so, then how do people still manage to confuse things
> like that?

These are seperate packages. There is one with patched
util-linux ("loop-aes-utils"), another with source for people
wanting to build modules for custom kernels ("loop-aes-source"), 
and then packages with the loop-AES (+ciphers) modules built 
for Debian kernels ("loop-aes-modules-$KERNEL").

	Max


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Kadir wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I use the following command to create a certificate request.
> 
> openssl req -new -nodes -out new-req.pem -keyout new-key.pem
> 
> But this command demands country, state, organization name, email etc.
> information from command line like the following example. I don' t want to
> enter country, state, organization name etc from command line like this
> example. I want to add this information (country, name, email etc) with some
> parameters like "-country TR -state KOCAELI ..."  to openssl command.  How
> can I do this?
> 

you need a openssl config file and then 
call for example:
openssl req -new -nodes -out new-req.pem -keyout new-key.pem -config openssl.cnf

see 
man req

hope that helps

wof
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* Max Vozeler <max@nusquama.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 02:40:02PM +0200, markus reichelt wrote:
> > I misinterpreted the report as: loop-AES no longer works with
> > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=3Dm under Debian.
> >=20
>