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> 
> Tim
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> > hoping the list maintainers turned on "subscriber post only" before I had
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> anon or with nyms, etc. Many of the people who need crypto the most
> wouldn't dare post from a real address.
>    Don't you have procmail?
>
> > Tim
> >
> > On Friday 03 January 2003 04:32 am, Watt Industrial CO.,LTD. wrote:
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> >
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Hi all

I have a working crypted loopback device with
my 2.4.20 kernel. Everything I needed from
the crypto section I compiled as a module.

Mounting my crypted FS does not work until
i modprobe cryptoapi and cryptoloop, then
it mounts and unmounts cleanly, but after
unmounting 

rmmod -a 

only removes the cipher, crytoapi and
cryptoloop stay in memory. I worked around
by loading those modules at bootup time,
having those modules loaded at all the time.

Can anybody tell me how to load und unload
those modules dynamically without invoking
modprobe/insmod directly?

thanks in advance

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On 4 Jan 2003, Join4Free.Com wrote:
> Thank you for signing up to Join4Free.Com.

Will someone PLEASE blackhole cavecreek?
They are well known porn spammers.

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-Dan
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Since I recently upgraded to an SMP system, I re-installed RH8.0, and
followed the directions for installing loop-aes.  I have a usb drive
which is one big loop-aes partition, so I copied over my previous
system's /etc/fstab entry, and I plugged in my usb drive.  Within 1
minute, my system froze.

I tried kernels 2.4.19 and 2.4.20 with identical results.  It seems
that whenever I plug in the usb drive, I see "modprobe: can't locate
block-major-2".  I'm not sure if this is a result of loop-aes, but I
thought someone in this list might have seen this before.

Since block-major-2 is the floppy device, I'm quite confused.  I
expect usb-storage to make the drive look like a scsi device, not a
floppy.

If I leave the usb drive plugged in while I boot, I see the
block-major-2 errors as soon as the system tries to mount the
filesystems (even though /mnt/crypt is not mounted by default).

If I plug in the usb drive after booting, I see the following in my
/var/log/messages file:

Jan  4 21:53:22 home kernel: loop: loaded (max 8 devices)
Jan  4 21:53:53 home kernel: Attached scsi generic sg0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0,  type 6
Jan  4 21:53:53 home modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-97
Jan  4 21:53:53 home last message repeated 3 times
Jan  4 21:59:48 home kernel: hub.c: new USB device 02:07.2-4, assigned address 2
Jan  4 21:59:48 home kernel: usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0xc0b/0xb001) is not claimed by any active driver.
Jan  4 21:59:51 home /etc/hotplug/usb.agent: Setup usb-storage for USB product c0b/b001/1110
Jan  4 21:59:51 home kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
Jan  4 21:59:51 home kernel: usb.c: registered new driver usb-storage
Jan  4 21:59:51 home kernel: scsi2 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
Jan  4 21:59:54 home kernel:   Vendor: HITACHI_  Model: DK23DA-30         Rev: 00J1
Jan  4 21:59:54 home kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Jan  4 21:59:54 home kernel: Attached scsi disk sda at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
Jan  4 21:59:54 home kernel: SCSI device sda: 58605120 512-byte hdwr sectors (30006 MB)
Jan  4 21:59:54 home kernel:  sda: sda1
Jan  4 21:59:54 home kernel: USB Mass Storage support registered.
Jan  4 21:59:54 home modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module block-major-2
Jan  4 21:59:54 home last message repeated 3 times
Jan  4 22:00:14 home modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-97
Jan  4 22:00:14 home last message repeated 3 times

When I run "mount /mnt/crypt", mount succeeds, but I only have a
minute or so before the whole system locks up.  I've done this about
15 times in the last 48 hours.

Any suggestions?

Dave
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   Why don't you put Join4Free.Com in your own procmail filter? Any mail from
just goes to /dev/null on my server -- but then I still get the complaints like
yours sent to the list, which is silly.


On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 09:19:43PM -0800, Dan Hollis wrote:
> On 4 Jan 2003, Join4Free.Com wrote:
> > Thank you for signing up to Join4Free.Com.
> 
> Will someone PLEASE blackhole cavecreek?
> They are well known porn spammers.
> 
> OrgName:  Cavecreek Wholesale Internet Exchange, LLC
> OrgID:    CWIEL
> 
> ASNumber: 19181
> ASName:   CWIE
> ASHandle: AS19181
> 
>    Network                  Metric LocPrf Weight Path
> *>i63.214.164.0/22                   9600      0 701 3356 19181 i
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> 
> -Dan
> -- 
> [-] Omae no subete no kichi wa ore no mono da. [-]
> 
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-- 
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On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, Harmon Seaver wrote:
>    Why don't you put Join4Free.Com in your own procmail filter? Any mail from
> just goes to /dev/null on my server -- but then I still get the complaints like
> yours sent to the list, which is silly.

Because its not just join4free.com, but about 400,000,000,000 other 
porno spam domains hosted at cavecreek too.

-Dan
-- 
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On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, Harmon Seaver wrote:
>    Why don't you put Join4Free.Com in your own procmail filter?

This is why:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%2Bcavecreek+%2Bspam&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search

They are well known porno spammers who have been spamming since at least 
1998.

-Dan
-- 
[-] Omae no subete no kichi wa ore no mono da. [-]

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Harmon Seaver wrote:
>Why don't you put Join4Free.Com in your own procmail filter?

And if someone doesn't want to run Procmail on his Linux ?

The solution for this list, which is the one adopted by a lot of lists 
(like recently gnupg.org mialing-lists) is : moderation.

All the e-mails received from addresses who hadn't subscribed are sended 
to a moderator, who validate every week the *real* linux questions, and 
delete all spams...


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On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 04:44:49PM +0100, pplf wrote:
> Harmon Seaver wrote:
> >Why don't you put Join4Free.Com in your own procmail filter?
> 
> And if someone doesn't want to run Procmail on his Linux ?
> 

   Well, I guess I'm not overly concerned about the problems of someone who
won't lift a finger to help themselves, but expects others to take care of
problems for them.


> The solution for this list, which is the one adopted by a lot of lists 
> (like recently gnupg.org mialing-lists) is : moderation.
> 

   You're asking for the list owner to go to a heck of a lot of extra work. And
I'd definitely object to "volunteer moderators" -- how do we know we can trust
them? 


> All the e-mails received from addresses who hadn't subscribed are sended 
> to a moderator, who validate every week the *real* linux questions, and 
> delete all spams...
> 

   The cypherpunk node at lne.com has pretty effectively solved this problem
without too much work on the part of the listowner, if this list were to seek
such a solution, I'd suggest looking there first.

  However -- what I do really object to is the fact that I didn't get the spam
that started this thread, but now I've gotten 7 emails regarding it. Which is
the real problem, the spam or people posting complaints to the list about it? If
you must complain, why not do it to the listowner directly? Why burden the rest
of us with what is *your* problem? 
  And with all the spam that comes to everyone everyday, if you really aren't
running procmail or some other filter, I guess I don't know what to
say. Probably I should just add the complainers to the filter. 


-- 
Harmon Seaver	
CyberShamanix
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dave-mlist@bfnet.com wrote:
> Since I recently upgraded to an SMP system, I re-installed RH8.0, and
> followed the directions for installing loop-aes.  I have a usb drive
> which is one big loop-aes partition, so I copied over my previous
> system's /etc/fstab entry, and I plugged in my usb drive.  Within 1
> minute, my system froze.
> 
> I tried kernels 2.4.19 and 2.4.20 with identical results.  It seems
> that whenever I plug in the usb drive, I see "modprobe: can't locate
> block-major-2".  I'm not sure if this is a result of loop-aes, but I
> thought someone in this list might have seen this before.
[snip]
> Any suggestions?

Is your SMP kernel .config exactly same as your previous UP kernel .config
(excluding UP -> SMP change)? Your kernel config appears a little strange
since it does not have floppy support enabled at all.

Posting your /etc/fstab line and your kernel .config might help. I suggest
that you check your kernel .config for missing bits and recompile your
kernel and loop-AES module. At least add support for block-major-2 "Floppy
disks" and char-major-97 "Parallel port generic ATAPI interface".

Regards,
Jari Ruusu <jari.ruusu@pp.inet.fi>

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hi i'm using loop-aes with aes128 mostly, I would like to know how we can 
calculate the memory usage the loop device needs for a specific amount of 
data to encrypt. jari mentioned when he talked about swap encryption that 
when the machine needs to swap it tries to free memory by it, but to 
encrypt the swap we need memory, and bingo :) well, how can we calculate 
that need or how does it work?
regards,
greg


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> On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, Kristopher Barrett wrote:
>> >> http://userpages.umbc.edu/~ian/procmail.html
>> > there is no reason for non-subscribers to post to the list. that
>> would stop all the spam dead.
>> I respectfully disagree. There are more than a few regimes that would
>> react violently to anyone they felt should be under their thumb who
>> requested information about strong cryptography. Allowing anon posts
>> lets these folks get info without risking their lives.
>
> rofl. sure.

The SLORC in Burma regularly troll USENET and web forums looking for
critics to attack and/or silence. The Church of Scientolgy also spends an
enormous amount of time looking for critics to slap with lawsuits. You can
also add more than a few central and south american countries, and a
shitload of middle east regimes to that list.

>
> point me out one time this has EVER happened on this list.
>
> now i can point you to the MANY times its been abused for porno spams.

Non-sequitor. State thugs aren't in a habit of bragging about evil deeds
on email lists. You will see the spam, but some poor fuck who speaks out
about an evil government will just go silent once he or his family becomes
known.

>
> and the day someone anon posts child porn to the list through this hole,
> i guarantee the list will be shut down permanently by the feds.

Were you planning on doing it? We did have a nut named Ken Pangborn who
took on anon remailers singlehandedly... posting nazi and klan filth on
USENET through them in an attempt to get them shut down. They refused to
hand over the names of posters he thought were slandering him, and he
threw a hissyfit that continues in alt.usenet.kooks and the men's support
groups to this day.

>
> it's a disaster waiting to happen.
>

I doubt it.

> and you're advocating list abuse.
>

Exactly where did I make a post advocating abuse? Put words in your own
mouth, not mine.


>> The list "owner" could blacklist spammers... but this would require
>> him to devote time better spent programming to list moderation. He
>> might even have to pay for a better service. I'm sure what he has now
>> is free of costs.
>
> only allowing subscribers to post is the proper fix. it requires zero
> effort.

If you think you know what the proper fix is, then start your own damned
list.

As for myself, I feel you are not worth arguing with, and am placing your
address in my killfile.... what you should have done in the first place.


-- 
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On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, Kristopher Barrett wrote:
> As for myself, I feel you are not worth arguing with, and am placing your
> address in my killfile.... what you should have done in the first place.

where do you get off posting private emails to the list?

this shows exactly what an unethical and immoral person you are.

-Dan
-- 
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Newsmail wrote:
> hi i'm using loop-aes with aes128 mostly, I would like to know how we can
> calculate the memory usage the loop device needs for a specific amount of
> data to encrypt. jari mentioned when he talked about swap encryption that
> when the machine needs to swap it tries to free memory by it, but to
> encrypt the swap we need memory, and bingo :) well, how can we calculate
> that need or how does it work?

loop-AES's device backed loop preallocates a predetermined amount of RAM
pages at losetup/mount time. It does not allocate any more thereafter at
all, but recycles preallocated pages. That means that it is encrypted swap
and encrypted filesystem safe no matter what amount of data you throw at it.

Amount of preallocation just affects performance: too little preallocation
causes slow performance, and too large preallocation just wastes RAM without
significant performance improvement.

Regards,
Jari Ruusu <jari.ruusu@pp.inet.fi>

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how is this preallocation calculated, is there any way to tweak it? :> or I 
presume its tweaked already. does it matter how big the filesystem on top 
the loop device is, how many writes do we have simultaneously, how fast do 
we have them(or do we want to have them :)), what is ideal, etcetc.
regards,
greg

>loop-AES's device backed loop preallocates a predetermined amount of RAM
>pages at losetup/mount time. It does not allocate any more thereafter at
>all, but recycles preallocated pages. That means that it is encrypted swap
>and encrypted filesystem safe no matter what amount of data you throw at it.
>
>Amount of preallocation just affects performance: too little preallocation
>causes slow performance, and too large preallocation just wastes RAM without
>significant performance improvement.
>
>Regards,
>Jari Ruusu <jari.ruusu@pp.inet.fi>
>
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