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FROM THE DESK OF: DR.OTUNMBA OLEMON.
E-Mail: olemon100@mail.com
LAGOS - NIGERIA.

Dear friend,

REQUEST FOR URGENT BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP.  -  STRICTLY
CONFIDENTIAL.

It is with my profound dignity that I write you this very important and 
highly confidential letter. First, I must solicit your strictest 
confidentiality in this transaction.  This is by virtue of its nature
as being utterly CONFIDENTIAL and "TOP SECRET". Though
I know that a transaction of this magnitude will make any one
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payment of Contract jobs done for the NIGERIAN NATIONAL PETROLEUM COOPERATION e.t.c. In order to commence this business
we solicit for your assistance to enable us transfer into your Account the said funds.
The source of this funds is as follows: In the first quarter of 2001, this committee was mandated to review and award
contracts to the tune of US$400 million US dollars to a group of five firms for the supply  and installation of medical equipments in all the
government owened hospitals in Nigeria. During this process my colleagues and I  decided and agreed 
among ourselves to deliberately over-inflate the total contract sum from US$400 million to US$428 million United States dollars with
the main intention of  sharing the remaining  sum of US$28 miilion amongst ourselves.
The Federal Government of Nigeria has since last year approved the sum of US$428 million for us as the contract sum, and the sum
of US$400 million has also been paid to the foreign companies concerned as contract entitlements 
for the various contracts done, but since the companies are entiltled to US$400 million dollars only, we are now left with
US$28 million dollars balance in the account which we intend to disburse amongst ourselves, but by virtue of our positions as civil servants and members of  this panel, 
we cannot do this by ourselves, as  we are prohibited by the Code of Conduct Bureau (Civil Service Laws) from opening and/or
operating foreign accounts in our names while still in Government service, makingit impossible 
for us to acquire the money in our  names right now. I have therefore, been delegated as a matter of trust and urgency by my
colleagues in the panel to look for an overseas partner into whose account we would transfer the 
sum of US$28 million. Hence we are writing you this letter.
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offsetting all debts/expenses and Taxes incurred both local and foreign in the course of this transfer. Needless to say, the trust reposed on
you at this juncture is enormous. In return we demand your complete honesty and trust. You must however NOTE that this transaction will be strictly
based on the following terms and conditions as we have stated below;
a) Our conviction of your transparent honesty and diligence
b) That you would treat this transaction with utmost secrecy and confidentiality
c) That you will not ask for more share or try to sit on the funds once it is under your custody, or any form of  blackmail.
c) That upon receipt of the funds you will release the funds as  instructed by us after you have removed your share of 20% from
    the total  amount.
Please, note that this transaction is 100% legal and risk free and we hope to conclude this transaction seven bank working days
from the date of receipt of the necessary requirements from you . We are looking forward to doing business with you and solicit your Total
Confidentiality in this transaction. There is no cause for alarm. I give you my word that you are completely safe in doing business with us.
Transactions like this have been successfully carried out in the past by most government executives. 
Here in my country there is great economic and political disarray and thus looting and corruption is rampant and the order of the day,
thus explaining why you might have heard stories of how money is been taken out of Nigeria, this is because everyone is making desperate attempts to
secure his or her future, so that when we retire from active service we do not languish in poverty. I 
will explain more to you when I have heard from you.
Please acknowledge the receipt of this letter using the above e-mail address. I will bring you into the complete picture of
this pending business transaction when I have heard from you and also receive your confidential telephone and fax numbers to enable me fax to you all
necessary information you need to know about our pending business transaction.
Your urgent response will be highly appreciated to enable us transfer the funds under this second quarter of the year 2002.

Thank you and God Bless.

Yours faithfully,

DR.OTUMBA OLEMON

N.B. PLEASE BE INFORMED THAT THIS BUSINESS TRANSACTION IS 100% LEGAL 



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I created a filesystem following Example 3 of the loop-aes README.  My
/etc/fstab file has a line that looks something like this:

/dev/sda1 /mnt/crypt ext3 defaults,noauto,loop=/dev/loop0,encryption=AES128,pseed=<someseed> 0 0

So, if I wanted to run fsck on this or just bring the filesystem
up to date with the journal, how would I do it?

Also, is there any guarantee that the ext3 journal on this filesystem
is being written to the physical disk?  Or is the loop device
totally asynchronous?

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Hi everybody!

I've created kernel-patch packages for Debian. If you compile your own
kernel with debian's make-kpkg tool you will find that very convenient.=20

Step 1:
	Put
	deb http://therapy.endorphin.org/kernel-patches/ ./
	deb-src http://therapy.endorphin.org/kernel-patches/ ./
	into your sources.list and "apt-get update".

Step 2:
	Install kernel-patch-loop-hvr OR kernel-patch-loop-jari.
	Install kernel-patch-cryptoapi.

Step 3:
	Get your kernel source. Put
	"patch_the_kernel =3D YES" into your /etc/kernel-pkg.conf
	And proceed with:
	"make-kpkg --added_patches=3Dhvrloop,cryptoapi binary-arch" or
	"make-kpkg --added_patches=3Djariloop,cryptoapi binary-arch"

Feedback is appreceated.
Clemens

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On Wed, 03 Jul 2002 13:29:41 -0700, dave-mlist@bfnet.com wrote:
> I created a filesystem following Example 3 of the loop-aes README.  My
> /etc/fstab file has a line that looks something like this:
> 
> /dev/sda1 /mnt/crypt ext3 defaults,noauto,loop=/dev/loop0,encryption=AES128,pseed=<someseed> 0 0
> 
> So, if I wanted to run fsck on this or just bring the filesystem
> up to date with the journal, how would I do it?

I don't believe there's any easy way to do this.. here are some
(progressively more) difficult ones:

-Hack your init scripts to set up the loop device before fsck -A is run,
 then change the line in fstab to:
 /dev/loop0 /mnt/crypt ext3 defaults 1 2

-Hack your init scripts to mount /mnt/crypt read-only, fsck it, and then
 remount it read-write (all after fsck -A)

-Hack e2fsck to understand the loop= option and run losetup

> Also, is there any guarantee that the ext3 journal on this filesystem
> is being written to the physical disk?  Or is the loop device
> totally asynchronous?

I can't find the reference (one of Jari's previous posts) but ISTR that
if your loop device is block-device-backed rather than file-backed, then
journaling works as it should. I would hope so, 'cuz that's my setup as
well.

HTH,

-- 
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On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 10:44:10PM -0400, Ben Slusky wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Jul 2002 13:29:41 -0700, dave-mlist@bfnet.com wrote:
> > I created a filesystem following Example 3 of the loop-aes README.  My
> > /etc/fstab file has a line that looks something like this:
> > 
> > /dev/sda1 /mnt/crypt ext3 defaults,noauto,loop=/dev/loop0,encryption=AES128,pseed=<someseed> 0 0
> > 
> > So, if I wanted to run fsck on this or just bring the filesystem
> > up to date with the journal, how would I do it?
> 
> I don't believe there's any easy way to do this.. here are some
> (progressively more) difficult ones:
> 
> -Hack your init scripts to set up the loop device before fsck -A is run,
>  then change the line in fstab to:
>  /dev/loop0 /mnt/crypt ext3 defaults 1 2

This is what I do in my cryptoswap init script since obviously a crypto
swap must be set up early :-)
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dave-mlist@bfnet.com wrote:
> I created a filesystem following Example 3 of the loop-aes README.  My
> /etc/fstab file has a line that looks something like this:
> 
> /dev/sda1 /mnt/crypt ext3 defaults,noauto,loop=/dev/loop0,encryption=AES128,pseed=<someseed> 0 0
> 
> So, if I wanted to run fsck on this or just bring the filesystem
> up to date with the journal, how would I do it?

To run fsck manually, do this when /mnt/crypt is _not_ mounted:

    losetup -e AES128 -S <someseed> /dev/loop0 /dev/sda1
    fsck -t ext3 -f -y /dev/loop0
    losetup -d /dev/loop0

> Also, is there any guarantee that the ext3 journal on this filesystem
> is being written to the physical disk?  Or is the loop device
> totally asynchronous?

Device backed loops signal writes as 'done' _after_ lower level driver has
signaled said writes as 'done', so device backed loops are journaling fs
safe.

Regards,
Jari Ruusu <jari.ruusu@pp.inet.fi>

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# /bin/sync --help
Usage: sync [OPTION]
Force changed blocks to disk, update the super block.

  --help      display this help and exit
  --version   output version information and exit

Report bugs to <bug-fileutils@gnu.org>.

JLC

On Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 06:07:43PM +0300, Jari Ruusu wrote:
> dave-mlist@bfnet.com wrote:
> > I created a filesystem following Example 3 of the loop-aes README.  My
> > /etc/fstab file has a line that looks something like this:
> > 
> > /dev/sda1 /mnt/crypt ext3 defaults,noauto,loop=/dev/loop0,encryption=AES128,pseed=<someseed> 0 0
> > 
> > So, if I wanted to run fsck on this or just bring the filesystem
> > up to date with the journal, how would I do it?
> 
> To run fsck manually, do this when /mnt/crypt is _not_ mounted:
> 
>     losetup -e AES128 -S <someseed> /dev/loop0 /dev/sda1
>     fsck -t ext3 -f -y /dev/loop0
>     losetup -d /dev/loop0
> 
> > Also, is there any guarantee that the ext3 journal on this filesystem
> > is being written to the physical disk?  Or is the loop device
> > totally asynchronous?
> 
> Device backed loops signal writes as 'done' _after_ lower level driver has
> signaled said writes as 'done', so device backed loops are journaling fs
> safe.
> 
> Regards,
> Jari Ruusu <jari.ruusu@pp.inet.fi>
> 
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A very simple (distro-Agnostic) patch installer is in the works now.  Something
akin to go-gnome.com's method.

Speaking of which, can I get everyone's input on known crypto restrictions
and recommendations so this installer can help people comply with the laws in
their locality.

Clemens, my suspicion that DEBs are better then RPMs is re-confirmed, good
work!  Once the kerneli.org/go script-rules are ready (with your gracious
input) could you wrap it into a DEB?

The goals we're all striving for:
  - make the cryptoapi installer part of standard distros (sans crypto)
  - assist where possible the users' compliance with law
  - proliferate the use of strong crypto

Cheers,

JLC

On Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 12:47:29AM +0200, Fruhwirth Clemens wrote:
> Hi everybody!
> 
> I've created kernel-patch packages for Debian. If you compile your own
> kernel with debian's make-kpkg tool you will find that very convenient. 
> 
> Step 1:
> 	Put
> 	deb http://therapy.endorphin.org/kernel-patches/ ./
> 	deb-src http://therapy.endorphin.org/kernel-patches/ ./
> 	into your sources.list and "apt-get update".
> 
> Step 2:
> 	Install kernel-patch-loop-hvr OR kernel-patch-loop-jari.
> 	Install kernel-patch-cryptoapi.
> 
> Step 3:
> 	Get your kernel source. Put
> 	"patch_the_kernel = YES" into your /etc/kernel-pkg.conf
> 	And proceed with:
> 	"make-kpkg --added_patches=hvrloop,cryptoapi binary-arch" or
> 	"make-kpkg --added_patches=jariloop,cryptoapi binary-arch"
> 
> Feedback is appreceated.
> Clemens



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On Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 02:04:31PM -0400, Jean-Luc Cooke wrote:
> The goals we're all striving for:
>   - make the cryptoapi installer part of standard distros (sans crypto)
>   - assist where possible the users' compliance with law

Or perhaps warn them to be secretive and very, very careful if they are 
residents of a fascist country... It's the people who live in *those*
kinds of places who need it the most.

>   - proliferate the use of strong crypto

The more the merrier!!

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  Is there any clear set of test cases that I should use when hacking
the code to confirm that the loopback FS still work?

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  I am working on a revision to the crypto-API - specifically a lower-level 
access API that would permit asynchronous operations as well as combination
operations. Most is inspired from the work that Bart did last summer.
  We need this for IPsec.

  Sleeping is just not in for code that may get called from interrupts in 
some circumstances. It needs to have a callback. 
  Combination operations mean doing things like digest and encryption in
one pass. There is existing hardware that can do this.

  The IPsec aware hardware can often lookup the crypto context from the SPI#
and load it. 

  My questions are about the disk I/O work, and whether there might be any
benefit from any of these things to that.  

  Finally, many pieces of hardware offer diffie-hellman and RSA accelerators
as well. Does anyone have any thoughts on interfaces to these? In initial cases
this is used only by user space programs - a simple device driver may
suffice.  However, dealing with signed binaries and capabilities would
require kernel access as well.

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On Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 02:04:31PM -0400, Jean-Luc Cooke wrote:
> A very simple (distro-Agnostic) patch installer is in the works now.=20
> Something akin to go-gnome.com's method.
>=20
> Speaking of which, can I get everyone's input on known crypto restrictions
> and recommendations so this installer can help people comply with the laws
> in their locality.
>=20
> Clemens, my suspicion that DEBs are better then RPMs is re-confirmed, good
> work!  Once the kerneli.org/go script-rules are ready (with your gracious
> input) could you wrap it into a DEB?

Sure, but I warn to start using different patch files for different
legislations. A simple solution to prevent the patch file maintainance mess
is to integrate the selection of legal ciphers/digests with the kernel
Config.in mechanism.  The go script would have to generate a source-able
file (i.e. /etc/kernel-site.cfg) with a content like

CONFIG_LEGAL_CIPHERS_STRONG=3D[y|n]
CONFIG_LEGAL_CIPHERS_WEAK=3D[y|n]
=2E.. and so on

This file would be "source"-ed by crypto's Config.in scripts, that select t=
he
allowed options based on the defined symbols.

For deb packaging it'd be convienent to split the /etc/kernel-site.cfg
generating part off the rest of the go script, since the deb packages don't
need the rest of the patching mechanism.

> The goals we're all striving for:
>   - make the cryptoapi installer part of standard distros (sans crypto)

For the deb packages it'll be all or nothing ATM (in terms of source).

Regards, Clemens

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Jean-Luc Cooke wrote:
> # /bin/sync --help
> Usage: sync [OPTION]
> Force changed blocks to disk, update the super block.
> 
>   --help      display this help and exit
>   --version   output version information and exit
> 
> Report bugs to <bug-fileutils@gnu.org>.

/bin/sync works above device drivers as it just sends dirty pages to device
drivers and waits for writes to complete. Loop is a device driver.

> On Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 06:07:43PM +0300, Jari Ruusu wrote:
> > Device backed loops signal writes as 'done' _after_ lower level driver has
> > signaled said writes as 'done', so device backed loops are journaling fs
> > safe.

Regards,
Jari Ruusu <jari.ruusu@pp.inet.fi>

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All this is being done right now...and the more I thought about ti
today...I'd much prefer having a:

  "make clean; make get_crypto; make menuconfig; make bzImage; make modules;"
               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
               New kernel make command!

This command would hold nothing but a few shell commands, one being:
  lynx -source http://www.kerneli.org/go?<kernelVersion>/<countryCode> | sh

As I'm developing now (EXTREME ALPHA):
  http://jlcooke.ca/go

When was the last time linus/alen/marcelo added a new Makefile command? (I'm
serious, really!)

JLC

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> On Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 02:04:31PM -0400, Jean-Luc Cooke wrote:
> > A very simple (distro-Agnostic) patch installer is in the works now. 
> > Something akin to go-gnome.com's method.
> > 
> > Speaking of which, can I get everyone's input on known crypto restrictions
> > and recommendations so this installer can help people comply with the laws
> > in their locality.
> > 
> > Clemens, my suspicion that DEBs are better then RPMs is re-confirmed, good
> > work!  Once the kerneli.org/go script-rules are ready (with your gracious
> > input) could you wrap it into a DEB?
> 
> Sure, but I warn to start using different patch files for different
> legislations. A simple solution to prevent the patch file maintainance mess
> is to integrate the selection of legal ciphers/digests with the kernel
> Config.in mechanism.  The go script would have to generate a source-able
> file (i.e. /etc/kernel-site.cfg) with a content like
> 
> CONFIG_LEGAL_CIPHERS_STRONG=[y|n]
> CONFIG_LEGAL_CIPHERS_WEAK=[y|n]
> ... and so on
> 
> This file would be "source"-ed by crypto's Config.in scripts, that select the
> allowed options based on the defined symbols.
> 
> For deb packaging it'd be convienent to split the /etc/kernel-site.cfg
> generating part off the rest of the go script, since the deb packages don't
> need the rest of the patching mechanism.
> 
> > The goals we're all striving for:
> >   - make the cryptoapi installer part of standard distros (sans crypto)
> 
> For the deb packages it'll be all or nothing ATM (in terms of source).
> 
> Regards, Clemens



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On Sonntag, 7. Juli 2002 04:17:04, Jean-Luc Cooke wrote:
>   "make clean; make get_crypto; make menuconfig; make bzImage; make
> modules;" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>                New kernel make command!
>
> This command would hold nothing but a few shell commands, one being:
>   lynx -source http://www.kerneli.org/go?<kernelVersion>/<countryCode> | sh

I don't really believe that getting a) crypto stuff for b) the kernel by 
piping unencrypted content into a shell without prior verification could 
possibly provide additional security. Do you have plans to use digital 
signatures or something that might guarantee data integrity and verify that 
the downloaded content is really from the author it is supposed to be?




Regards,



David
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Yes, if you look at the script, there are GPG signature performed.

example:
  http://jlcooke.ca/go?2.4.18/CA | less

Ideally, I'd rather have an SSL tunnel to the script...but that depends on
the server.

JLC

On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 09:50:04AM +0200, David Gümbel wrote:
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> On Sonntag, 7. Juli 2002 04:17:04, Jean-Luc Cooke wrote:
> >   "make clean; make get_crypto; make menuconfig; make bzImage; make
> > modules;" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >                New kernel make command!
> >
> > This command would hold nothing but a few shell commands, one being:
> >   lynx -source http://www.kerneli.org/go?<kernelVersion>/<countryCode> | sh
> 
> I don't really believe that getting a) crypto stuff for b) the kernel by 
> piping unencrypted content into a shell without prior verification could 
> possibly provide additional security. Do you have plans to use digital 
> signatures or something that might guarantee data integrity and verify that 
> the downloaded content is really from the author it is supposed to be?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> 
> David
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On Sunday 07 July 2002 20:35:20, Jean-Luc Cooke wrote:
> Yes, if you look at the script, there are GPG signature performed.
>
> example:
>   http://jlcooke.ca/go?2.4.18/CA | less
>
> Ideally, I'd rather have an SSL tunnel to the script...but that depends on
> the server.

Yes, I see :) 

But there are still some things that come to my mind as far as security is 
concerned:

* Placing "KERNKEY=0x517D0F0E" inside the script downloaded from the web might
  be a potential security risk as this could quite easily be transparently 
  replaced by a different key id I have in my keyring (or that is available
  via the keyserver)[1]. I think this might be avoided by reading the key ID
  from a local file that has to be created by the user first (?)
* There is no check whether the key used for verification is trusted/has 
  been signed by the user. 
* The script is being piped directly from the web to a root shell. This looks
  dangerous to me, even with SSL in use, as long as the SSL certificate
  doesn't undergo verification. I currently can't find any option for
  lynx or w3m that does this, but it's very possible I'm just blind.

And there's one thing I stumbled across when reading the code - maybe you 
should start with a section like this:

TRUEBIN = `which true`
W3MBIN = `which w3m`
LYNXBIN = `which lynx`
etc., just as you did with the gpg binary.

All just IMHO, of course.



Greetings,




David


[1] which would require replacing the signatures as well, but that is possible
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Thanks David, input is wonderful!

On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 12:56:29AM +0200, David Gümbel wrote:
> > example:
> >   http://jlcooke.ca/go?2.4.18/CA | less
> 
> Yes, I see :) 
> 
> But there are still some things that come to my mind as far as security is 
> concerned:
> 
> * Placing "KERNKEY=0x517D0F0E" inside the script downloaded from the web might
>   be a potential security risk as this could quite easily be transparently 
>   replaced by a different key id I have in my keyring (or that is available
>   via the keyserver)[1]. I think this might be avoided by reading the key ID
>   from a local file that has to be created by the user first (?)

go-gnome.com does something like this, so I'm not without precedent.  :)

I agree, an SSL (https vs http) URL fetch is preferred.  This has sent me down
a few interesting paths (jl's little secret for now).  Worse come to worse,
I'll buy a thwate cert for kerneli.org.

BTW, lynx and w3m both use libssl.so (openssl).  And openssl will disallow a
connection to an invalid host/cert pair, I don't think either are using this
feature...too bad.

The issue with GPG...well I have my own opinions about GPG with most people
will not like.  Can we assume if the SH script comes from a verified SSL tunnel,
that the contents can be trusted?

> * There is no check whether the key used for verification is trusted/has 
>   been signed by the user. 

If the user doesn't have the key yet, how can the user sign it for use?  Are
you suggesting we prompt the user?

> * The script is being piped directly from the web to a root shell. This looks
>   dangerous to me, even with SSL in use, as long as the SSL certificate
>   doesn't undergo verification. I currently can't find any option for
>   lynx or w3m that does this, but it's very possible I'm just blind.

Read above, re:verification of the SSL tunnel.

> And there's one thing I stumbled across when reading the code - maybe you 
> should start with a section like this:
> 
> TRUEBIN = `which true`
> W3MBIN = `which w3m`
> LYNXBIN = `which lynx`
> etc., just as you did with the gpg binary.

Sounds good.

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Can some explain why the constructs:

#define __xINIT_CIPHER_BLKOPS(name)    INIT_CIPHER_BLKOPS(name)
#define __xINIT_CIPHER_OPS(name)       INIT_CIPHER_OPS(name)

...

#define __STR(x) # x
#define __xSTR(x) __STR(x)

#define __CAT(x,y) x ## y
#define __xCAT(x,y) __CAT(x,y)

Why have __xCAT(x,y) at all? Why not just call __CAT() directly?
Ditto for INIT_CIPHER_BLKOPS().

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Hi,
I installed LVM and cryptoapi on one harddrive with help from the list.
Everything went fine, but I need to resize the partition since I added
another drive to the LVM.

I tried doing this but I got an error saying that it can't find the
magic something of the partition (sorry I can't remember exactly -
stupid as I am, I didn't think of writing it down :P).

My question is - are there any limitations to using a ext3 partition
like this, compared to not using cryptoapi ? e.g. resizing ? or did I do
something wrong ?

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On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 10:00:24AM -0400, Jean-Luc Cooke wrote:
 
> BTW, lynx and w3m both use libssl.so (openssl).  And openssl will disallow a
> connection to an invalid host/cert pair, I don't think either are using this
> feature...too bad.

see w3m options. Not that I had ever seriously tested this.

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On Tue, 2002-07-09 at 00:12, Michael Richardson wrote:
> Can some explain why the constructs:
>=20
> #define __xINIT_CIPHER_BLKOPS(name)    INIT_CIPHER_BLKOPS(name)
> #define __xINIT_CIPHER_OPS(name)       INIT_CIPHER_OPS(name)
>=20
> ...
>=20
> #define __STR(x) # x
> #define __xSTR(x) __STR(x)
>=20
> #define __CAT(x,y) x ## y
> #define __xCAT(x,y) __CAT(x,y)
>=20
> Why have __xCAT(x,y) at all? Why not just call __CAT() directly?
> Ditto for INIT_CIPHER_BLKOPS().

I'm glad you asked, since it's actually a quite interesting---but little
known---issue :-)

it has to do with cpp's behaviour, when the macro argument is used as an
operand of ## or # in the macro body;

usually when a macro call is encountered, it's arguments are
'prescanned' and macro-expanded if necessary; then the result is
substituted in the macro body; and after that another scan on the
expanded body is performed; thus scanning takes place twice;

but when arguments of the macro are used as operands to ## or # they are
not prescanned, but are taken literally, as they were passed to the
macro;=20

some example; the fragments above are typically used by the following
macro:

#define CIPHER_SYMBOL(x) __xCAT(CIPHER_ID,x)

which in turn is used in the cipher implementations the following way
(it's just a simplified case; essentially this macro template stuff
allows to let the preprocessor "instantiate" some other symbols and
protoype-declarations (which all follow the same scheme) in a batch,
which would otherwise need to be typed out by hand...)

#define CIPHER_ID twofish

/* imagine the macro #defines written above to be in scope here */

/* the following simplified prototypes are #included from a gen(eric) c
header */
int CIPHER_SYMBOL(_encrypt) (...);
int CIPHER_SYMBOL(_decrypt) (...);
int CIPHER_SYMBOL(_setkey) (...);

the last 3 lines above would be expanded to

int twofish_encrypt (...);
int twofish_decrypt (...);
int twofish_setkey (...);

...hope I could make it clear a bit (in case it wasn't), why this is a
killer feature IMHO...

now back to the reason, why the construct above needs those additional
"x-layers":

imagine we had CIPHER_SYMBOL2 using __CAT directly, instead of __xCAT:

#define CIPHER_SYMBOL2(x) __CAT(CIPHER_ID,x)

then

int CIPHER_SYMBOL2(_encrypt) (...);

would evaluate to (pass by pass):

int CIPHER_SYMBOL2(_encrypt) (...);
int __CAT(CIPHER_ID,_encrypt) (...); /* prescan not used for ##'s
operands */
int CIPHER_ID ## _encrypt (...); /* post-scan doesn't change anything */
int CIPHER_ID_encrypt (...); /* since operands to ## are taken as is */

and now compare this to the x-version:

int CIPHER_SYMBOL(_encrypt) (...);
int __xCAT(CIPHER_ID,_encrypt) (...); /* prescanning takes place */
int __CAT(twofish,_encrypt) (...); /* pre-expanded args filled in, 2nd
scan doesn't change anything */
int twofish ## _encrypt (...); /* __CAT got expanded */
int twofish_encrypt (...); /* just what we wanted! */

well, guess that's already off-topic enough for now... :-)

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On Monday 08 July 2002 22:01:22, Richard Zidlicky wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 10:00:24AM -0400, Jean-Luc Cooke wrote:
> > BTW, lynx and w3m both use libssl.so (openssl).  And openssl will
> > disallow a connection to an invalid host/cert pair, I don't think either
> > are using this feature...too bad.
>
> see w3m options. Not that I had ever seriously tested this.

Are you talking about compile options? I don't see anything at the command 
line that fits here.



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  Yeah, that's a good reason. I've run into the same thing before.
I think that this probably in a FAQ somewhere...
  A note in the code would help.

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ach Mist jetzt hab ich doch glatt vergessen die Adresse mit zu schicken sorry hier ist sie: http://funchat.rox.to
na gut kannste dir ja mal anschauen sehen uns dann evtl wieder im Chat ok ? So muß jetzt zur Arbeit bis dann


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where have these patches gone? I seem to have everything I need in my
woody /sbin/losetup, but I want to be build them from scratch.

The HOWTO says that they would get copied to
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/crypto, but that isn't the case for me.

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On Tue, 2002-07-09 at 22:21, Michael Richardson wrote:
> where have these patches gone? I seem to have everything I need in my
> woody /sbin/losetup, but I want to be build them from scratch.
well, that's because debian includes already an (ancient) variant of the
patches...
=20
> The HOWTO says that they would get copied to
> /usr/src/linux/Documentation/crypto, but that isn't the case for me.
the HOWTO you have seems to be out-of-date;
you can find the latest util-linux patches in

http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/hvr/util-linux-patch-int/

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On Monday 08 July 2002 22:01:22, Richard Zidlicky wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 10:00:24AM -0400, Jean-Luc Cooke wrote:
> > BTW, lynx and w3m both use libssl.so (openssl).  And openssl will
> > disallow a connection to an invalid host/cert pair, I don't think either
> > are using this feature...too bad.
>
> see w3m options. Not that I had ever seriously tested this.

Are you talking about compile options? I don't see anything at the command 
line that fits here.



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Hi,
I installed LVM and cryptoapi on one harddrive with help from the list.
Everything went fine, but I need to resize the partition since I added
another drive to the LVM.

I tried doing this but I got an error saying that it can't find the
magic something of the partition (sorry I can't remember exactly -
stupid as I am, I didn't think of writing it down :P).

My question is - are there any limitations to using a ext3 partition
like this, compared to not using cryptoapi ? e.g. resizing ? or did I do
something wrong ?

Thanks in advance.

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On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 05:49:03PM +0200, David Gümbel wrote:
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> On Monday 08 July 2002 22:01:22, Richard Zidlicky wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 10:00:24AM -0400, Jean-Luc Cooke wrote:
> > > BTW, lynx and w3m both use libssl.so (openssl).  And openssl will
> > > disallow a connection to an invalid host/cert pair, I don't think either
> > > are using this feature...too bad.
> >
> > see w3m options. Not that I had ever seriously tested this.
> 
> Are you talking about compile options? I don't see anything at the command 
> line that fits here.

no, those that appear when you hit 'o' inside w3m or use the popup
menu entry.

Richard
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From:	Peter Kirk <pwk.linuxfan@gmx.de>
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Hi,

Since I am realy quite new to crypto stuff....I'll just tell you what I am 
trying to do....if you could point out bad points or give hints they would be 
greatly appreciated.

To make my system-data totally robbery safe:
I'd like to put a loopback-crypto with reiserfs on all my partitions except 
/boot (so on /, /usr, /home etc.). The encryption I wish to use is the aes 
(the winner of that competition). 

This is my little dream:
After starting my computer, running lilo and selecting my kernel (lying on 
/boot the kernel can be read) a initial ramdisk is loaded...containing 
losetup, mount and a script I will write. This script will ask for the 
password to decrypt the partitions, and will then mount all my partitions 
with this passoword, meaning I enter _one_ password _once_. When the 
partitions are mounted (to /mnt and sub) I chroot into my new system and 
continue booting. Since with swap it doesnt seem to be possible to encrypt 
it, I am  planning on not using a swap partition at all.

Where do you see problems ?

Ideas of problems I have:
the script:
is it possible to "enter" the password with a script ?
around the script:
where do I put it (so the initial ram disk will load it ??
how will I make the system continue to boot normaly when finished ?
does linux work with out swap (I got 512 MB RAM) ?
is it safe ??

Thanks for reading (and possibly helping)
Peter
-- 
Reality is a cop-out for people who can't handle drugs.

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On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 02:04:20 +0200, Peter Kirk wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Since I am realy quite new to crypto stuff....I'll just tell you what I am 
> trying to do....if you could point out bad points or give hints they would be 
> greatly appreciated.

<Peter's dream delenda est>

I've got all that done. I've been meaning to post the whole package "as
soon as I clean it up some." Look for it RSN...

Oh, and you can encrypt swap; see Jari Ruusu's patches, which have been
discussed in previous posts to this list.

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sluskyb@stwing.org              | face is the nipple. After
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PGP keyID ADA44B3B              |               -Bruce Ediger
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