Re: WebDesignHQ Flash SiteBuilder Newsletter

[Harmon Seaver <hseaver@cybershamanix.com>]

   Making it subscriber/posting only is a seriously bad idea. Unless perhaps
*all* of the anon remailers can be included as subscribers. And there really
aren't very many spam messages coming thru here anyway, or maybe my procmail
filters just send them all to /dev/null, but compared to all the other spam I
get everyday, the ones I see from here are a real non-problem.


On Sat, Aug 24, 2002 at 11:45:06AM -0500, Tim Thompson wrote:
> On Saturday 24 August 2002 09:10 am, Fruhwirth Clemens wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 24, 2002 at 02:45:40PM +0100, Sean Neakums wrote:
> > > > The spam on this list has become unacceptable to me.
> > >
> > > Since the spam is bothering *you*, I suggest that *you* take measures
> > > to deal with it, such as using spamassassin.  It catches almost all of
> > > the spam I receive.  I see only one or two spam messages a week (if
> > > even that) end up in my linux-crypto folder.
> >
> > Spam catchers do not work. To quote http://tmda.sf.net/ :
> >
> > "The problem with this approach is that spammer's intrusion techniques are
> > evolving as fast as your prevention techniques are, so the battle is never
> > ending. Maintaining the blacklist is often just as time-consuming as
> > pressing the "Delete" key on the easily recognized junk messages. If wasted
> > time is your biggest complaint with junk e-mail, you can see why this
> > traditional methodology is flawed."
> 
> I agree.  I used spamassassin for a while.  It caught more non-spam messages 
> and labeled them spam while letting several spam messages through.  When I 
> raised the threshold, it let even more spam through.  There was probably some 
> more "tuning" I could have done, but that means I would have had to spend the 
> time to do it... at that point I would have spent more time doing that than 
> manually deleting the spam.
> 
> >
> > Concerning "The spam is bothering *me* and no one else": Please stop being
> > presumptuous to speak for everyone else on this list implicitly.
> 
> Well, it bothers me.  I'm not sure it bothers me enough to unsubscribe.  Yet. 
> I've only been lurking on the list for a week, so we'll see.
> 
> > > > Publicly I urge the list maintainer to make this list post-only for
> > > > subscribers.
> > >
> > > Given the way Linux-related development lists tend to be used, I don't
> > > see this idea being a runner.
> 
> I was surprised that it wasn't post-only for subscribers.  Almost all other 
> lists I'm on are.  The downside of doing that, though, is that it makes it 
> harder to post.  The account I use "cryptolinux@timt.net" is not a real email 
> address.  I only use it to receive posts to this list.  I can't post from it.  
> With some boards even setting the "From" and "Reply-to" are not enough, so I 
> have to actually log into my domain host to send the mail rather than going 
> through my ISP.  That discourages posting, at least for me.  But then I 
> mostly lurk anyway...
> 
> >
> > Have a nice day,
> > Clemens
> 
> Back to lurking...
> 
> Tim T.
> 
> 
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