Re: WebDesignHQ Flash SiteBuilder Newsletter

[Tim Thompson <cryptolinux@timt.net>]

On Saturday 24 August 2002 09:10 am, Fruhwirth Clemens wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 24, 2002 at 02:45:40PM +0100, Sean Neakums wrote:
> > > The spam on this list has become unacceptable to me.
> >
> > Since the spam is bothering *you*, I suggest that *you* take measures
> > to deal with it, such as using spamassassin.  It catches almost all of
> > the spam I receive.  I see only one or two spam messages a week (if
> > even that) end up in my linux-crypto folder.
>
> Spam catchers do not work. To quote http://tmda.sf.net/ :
>
> "The problem with this approach is that spammer's intrusion techniques are
> evolving as fast as your prevention techniques are, so the battle is never
> ending. Maintaining the blacklist is often just as time-consuming as
> pressing the "Delete" key on the easily recognized junk messages. If wasted
> time is your biggest complaint with junk e-mail, you can see why this
> traditional methodology is flawed."

I agree.  I used spamassassin for a while.  It caught more non-spam messages 
and labeled them spam while letting several spam messages through.  When I 
raised the threshold, it let even more spam through.  There was probably some 
more "tuning" I could have done, but that means I would have had to spend the 
time to do it... at that point I would have spent more time doing that than 
manually deleting the spam.

>
> Concerning "The spam is bothering *me* and no one else": Please stop being
> presumptuous to speak for everyone else on this list implicitly.

Well, it bothers me.  I'm not sure it bothers me enough to unsubscribe.  Yet. 
I've only been lurking on the list for a week, so we'll see.

> > > Publicly I urge the list maintainer to make this list post-only for
> > > subscribers.
> >
> > Given the way Linux-related development lists tend to be used, I don't
> > see this idea being a runner.

I was surprised that it wasn't post-only for subscribers.  Almost all other 
lists I'm on are.  The downside of doing that, though, is that it makes it 
harder to post.  The account I use "cryptolinux@timt.net" is not a real email 
address.  I only use it to receive posts to this list.  I can't post from it.  
With some boards even setting the "From" and "Reply-to" are not enough, so I 
have to actually log into my domain host to send the mail rather than going 
through my ISP.  That discourages posting, at least for me.  But then I 
mostly lurk anyway...

>
> Have a nice day,
> Clemens

Back to lurking...

Tim T.


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