From linux-cluster-bounce@nl.linux.org Fri Nov 7 04:46:21 2003 Received: from localhost.nl.linux.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]:57803 "EHLO humbolt.") by humbolt.nl.linux.org with ESMTP id S23653AbTKGBkU (ORCPT ); Fri, 7 Nov 2003 02:40:20 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list linux-cluster); Fri, 07 Nov 2003 02:40:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from web11407.mail.yahoo.com ([IPv6:::ffff:216.136.131.237]:3731 "HELO web11407.mail.yahoo.com") by humbolt.nl.linux.org with SMTP id S23640AbTKGBAY (ORCPT ); Fri, 7 Nov 2003 02:00:24 +0100 Message-ID: <20031107005951.2157.qmail@web11407.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.49.80.122] by web11407.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 16:59:51 PST Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:59:51 -0800 (PST) From: Rayson Ho Subject: Linux vs FreeBSD clusters (was: how are the Redhat product changes affecting existing and future plans?) To: bioclusters@bioinformatics.org, beowulf , Linux Cluster , List In-Reply-To: <20031106145623.GA5867@iib.unsam.edu.ar> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.20 X-Spam-Level: X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: linux-cluster-bounce@nl.linux.org Errors-to: linux-cluster-bounce@nl.linux.org X-original-sender: raysonlogin@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: linux-cluster Return-Path: X-Envelope-To: <"| /bin/marchive -a -m -f /home/majordomo/public_html/linux-cluster/folders/linux-cluster"> (uid 0) X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-cluster-archive@nl.linux.org Original-Recipient: rfc822;linux-cluster-archive@nl.linux.org A very good paper about building HPC clusters with FreeBSD: "Building a High-performance Computing Cluster Using FreeBSD" http://people.freebsd.org/~brooks/papers/bsdcon2003/ The author talked about hardware issues: KVM, BIOS redirection, CPU choices; and then talked about why he chose FreeBSD instead of Linux... he also did the port of GridEngine (SGE) to FreeBSD. Anyone tried to setup HPC clusters with *BSD?? Rayson --- Fernan Aguero wrote: > Any FreeBSD users willing to share clustering experiences > out there? > > Fernan __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree - Linux-cluster: generic cluster infrastructure for Linux Archive: http://mail.nl.linux.org/linux-cluster/ From linux-cluster-bounce@nl.linux.org Fri Nov 7 06:15:50 2003 Received: from localhost.nl.linux.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]:31653 "EHLO humbolt.") by humbolt.nl.linux.org with ESMTP id S16178AbTKGENd (ORCPT ); Fri, 7 Nov 2003 05:13:33 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list linux-cluster); Fri, 07 Nov 2003 05:13:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from h00609772adf0.ne.client2.attbi.com ([IPv6:::ffff:66.31.45.197]:27585 "EHLO h00609772adf0.ne.client2.attbi.com") by humbolt.nl.linux.org with ESMTP id S16378AbTKGECs (ORCPT ); Fri, 7 Nov 2003 05:02:48 +0100 Received: from h00609772adf0.ne.client2.attbi.com (localhost.crodrigues.org [127.0.0.1]) by h00609772adf0.ne.client2.attbi.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA744HdN006219; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 23:04:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rodrigc@h00609772adf0.ne.client2.attbi.com) Received: (from rodrigc@localhost) by h00609772adf0.ne.client2.attbi.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id hA744FKN006218; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 23:04:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rodrigc) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 23:04:15 -0500 From: Craig Rodrigues To: Rayson Ho Cc: bioclusters@bioinformatics.org, beowulf , Linux Cluster , List Subject: Re: Linux vs FreeBSD clusters (was: how are the Redhat product changes affecting existing and future plans?) Message-ID: <20031107040415.GA5711@crodrigues.org> References: <20031106145623.GA5867@iib.unsam.edu.ar> <20031107005951.2157.qmail@web11407.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031107005951.2157.qmail@web11407.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.20 X-Spam-Level: X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: linux-cluster-bounce@nl.linux.org Errors-to: linux-cluster-bounce@nl.linux.org X-original-sender: rodrigc@crodrigues.org Precedence: bulk List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: linux-cluster Return-Path: X-Envelope-To: <"| /bin/marchive -a -m -f /home/majordomo/public_html/linux-cluster/folders/linux-cluster"> (uid 0) X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-cluster-archive@nl.linux.org Original-Recipient: rfc822;linux-cluster-archive@nl.linux.org On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 04:59:51PM -0800, Rayson Ho wrote: > A very good paper about building HPC clusters with FreeBSD: > > "Building a High-performance Computing Cluster Using FreeBSD" > > http://people.freebsd.org/~brooks/papers/bsdcon2003/ > > The author talked about hardware issues: KVM, BIOS redirection, CPU > choices; and then talked about why he chose FreeBSD instead of Linux... > he also did the port of GridEngine (SGE) to FreeBSD. > > Anyone tried to setup HPC clusters with *BSD?? Hi, Not quite the same as an HPC cluster, but take a look at the University of Utah's Emulab: http://www.emulab.net It is heavily based on FreeBSD (i.e. makes use of FreeBSD routing, Dummynet, etc.). The Emulab is a remotely accessible testbed that researchers can use to conduct network experiments. It consists of about 200 PC nodes. The same company that Brooks works for (Aerospace), has apparently set up an internal testbed based on the Emulab software developed at Utah. I use the Emulab every day as party of my research work at BBN, and it is an excellent facility. -- Craig Rodrigues http://crodrigues.org rodrigc@crodrigues.org - Linux-cluster: generic cluster infrastructure for Linux Archive: http://mail.nl.linux.org/linux-cluster/ From linux-cluster-bounce@nl.linux.org Fri Nov 7 07:13:16 2003 Received: from localhost.nl.linux.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]:30902 "EHLO humbolt.") by humbolt.nl.linux.org with ESMTP id S16325AbTKGFQk (ORCPT ); Fri, 7 Nov 2003 06:16:40 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list linux-cluster); Fri, 07 Nov 2003 06:16:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from netmeister.org ([IPv6:::ffff:64.81.200.34]:40930 "EHLO netmeister.org") by humbolt.nl.linux.org with ESMTP id S16232AbTKGEVr (ORCPT ); Fri, 7 Nov 2003 05:21:47 +0100 Received: by netmeister.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9B99B2DC624; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 23:22:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 23:22:50 -0500 From: Jan Schaumann To: Rayson Ho Cc: bioclusters@bioinformatics.org, beowulf , Linux Cluster , List , tech-cluster@netbsd.org Subject: Re: Linux vs FreeBSD clusters (was: how are the Redhat product changes affecting existing and future plans?) Message-ID: <20031107042250.GB3913@netmeister.org> Mail-Followup-To: Rayson Ho , bioclusters@bioinformatics.org, beowulf , Linux Cluster , List , tech-cluster@netbsd.org References: <20031106145623.GA5867@iib.unsam.edu.ar> <20031107005951.2157.qmail@web11407.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XF85m9dhOBO43t/C" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031107005951.2157.qmail@web11407.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.20 X-Spam-Level: X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: linux-cluster-bounce@nl.linux.org Errors-to: linux-cluster-bounce@nl.linux.org X-original-sender: jschauma@netmeister.org Precedence: bulk List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: linux-cluster Return-Path: X-Envelope-To: <"| /bin/marchive -a -m -f /home/majordomo/public_html/linux-cluster/folders/linux-cluster"> (uid 0) X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-cluster-archive@nl.linux.org Original-Recipient: rfc822;linux-cluster-archive@nl.linux.org --XF85m9dhOBO43t/C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rayson Ho wrote: > A very good paper about building HPC clusters with FreeBSD: >=20 > "Building a High-performance Computing Cluster Using FreeBSD" >=20 > http://people.freebsd.org/~brooks/papers/bsdcon2003/ >=20 > The author talked about hardware issues: KVM, BIOS redirection, CPU > choices; and then talked about why he chose FreeBSD instead of Linux... > he also did the port of GridEngine (SGE) to FreeBSD. >=20 > Anyone tried to setup HPC clusters with *BSD?? I have a 30 node NetBSD/i386 cluster, and just recently created the tech-cluster@netbsd.org mailing list. Some people are working on a port of SGE to NetBSD, too. I hope to expand the awareness of NetBSD in particular for cluster usage in the near future. Some URLs of relevance: http://guinness.cs.stevens-tech.edu/~jschauma/hpcf/ http://www.netbsd.org/MailingLists/#tech-cluster http://www.netbsd.org/ http://eurobsdcon.org/papers/#souvatzis http://bsd.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=3D03/10/20/1523252&mode=3Dthread&tid= =3D122&tid=3D185&tid=3D190 http://bsd.slashdot.org/bsd/03/11/05/1536226.shtml?tid=3D122&tid=3D185&tid= =3D190 -Jan --=20 Life," said Marvin, "don't talk to me about life." --XF85m9dhOBO43t/C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (NetBSD) iD8DBQE/qx4afFtkr68iakwRAlZaAKDNrRoIwtwjP9t4/eEfBEtpiv/p6ACgt5FR 9gGHhsjX+zJE9NeSwAwgLo8= =zUsX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XF85m9dhOBO43t/C-- - Linux-cluster: generic cluster infrastructure for Linux Archive: http://mail.nl.linux.org/linux-cluster/ From linux-cluster-bounce@nl.linux.org Fri Nov 7 07:13:22 2003 Received: from localhost.nl.linux.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]:63158 "EHLO humbolt.") by humbolt.nl.linux.org with ESMTP id S16201AbTKGFSJ (ORCPT ); Fri, 7 Nov 2003 06:18:09 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list linux-cluster); Fri, 07 Nov 2003 06:18:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from Odin.AC.HMC.Edu ([IPv6:::ffff:134.173.32.75]:3533 "EHLO odin.ac.hmc.edu") by humbolt.nl.linux.org with ESMTP id S16677AbTKGEoi (ORCPT ); Fri, 7 Nov 2003 05:44:38 +0100 Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (IDENT:brdavis@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id hA74hVXU029131; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:43:31 -0800 Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id hA74hVql029121; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:43:31 -0800 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:43:30 -0800 From: Brooks Davis To: Craig Rodrigues Cc: Rayson Ho , List , bioclusters@bioinformatics.org, beowulf , Linux Cluster Subject: Re: Linux vs FreeBSD clusters (was: how are the Redhat product changes affecting existing and future plans?) Message-ID: <20031107044322.GA23181@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <20031106145623.GA5867@iib.unsam.edu.ar> <20031107005951.2157.qmail@web11407.mail.yahoo.com> <20031107040415.GA5711@crodrigues.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031107040415.GA5711@crodrigues.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) on odin.ac.hmc.edu X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.20 X-Spam-Level: X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: linux-cluster-bounce@nl.linux.org Errors-to: linux-cluster-bounce@nl.linux.org X-original-sender: brooks@one-eyed-alien.net Precedence: bulk List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: linux-cluster Return-Path: X-Envelope-To: <"| /bin/marchive -a -m -f /home/majordomo/public_html/linux-cluster/folders/linux-cluster"> (uid 0) X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-cluster-archive@nl.linux.org Original-Recipient: rfc822;linux-cluster-archive@nl.linux.org --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 11:04:15PM -0500, Craig Rodrigues wrote: > Not quite the same as an HPC cluster, but take > a look at the University of Utah's Emulab: >=20 > http://www.emulab.net >=20 > It is heavily based on FreeBSD (i.e. makes use of FreeBSD routing, > Dummynet, etc.). The Emulab is a remotely accessible testbed > that researchers can use to conduct network experiments. It > consists of about 200 PC nodes. The same company that=20 > Brooks works for (Aerospace), has apparently set up > an internal testbed based on the Emulab software developed at Utah. We (my department, but mostly different people then Fellowship) have a small 10-node setup (though each node does have 6 gigabit ports :-). I think we're aiming to upgrade to around 48 nodes in the next year. Our HPC cluster is currently pretty close to what's described in the paper, though we are up to 160 nodes and we're adding rack space for another 192 this year. The short version of my take on which OS to run on your cluster is that so long as it runs the apps you need, the best OS is one you know how to admin well since that's most of the work. I've spent a few weeks here and there porting applictions or improving their ports, but by and large, most key systems are already ported to the major UNIX platforms. The free MPI implemntations work on just about anything, the base Ganglia metrics work nearly everywhere (FreeBSD and Linux are at feature parity in the upcoming release), and SGE works on a wide range of platforms. On an amusing note, we were the launch customer for Grid Mathematica despite not running a supported OS because the Linux version runs just fine on FreeBSD. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/qyLlXY6L6fI4GtQRAgRdAKDL9Eh1RB4Q0eBBFhKNhizmT9+cbQCeIe0+ VNFsAkXmJmeO9w7ESxHEuvE= =yKvI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C-- - Linux-cluster: generic cluster infrastructure for Linux Archive: http://mail.nl.linux.org/linux-cluster/ From linux-cluster-bounce@nl.linux.org Thu Nov 13 02:50:51 2003 Received: from localhost.nl.linux.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]:27342 "EHLO humbolt.") by humbolt.nl.linux.org with ESMTP id S23237AbTKLUAP (ORCPT ); Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:00:15 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list linux-cluster); Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:00:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from ns.typhon.ufal.br ([IPv6:::ffff:200.17.112.70]:63944 "EHLO neumann.typhon.ufal.br") by humbolt.nl.linux.org with ESMTP id S23309AbTKLTS7 (ORCPT ); Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:18:59 +0100 Received: from typhon.ufal.br ([172.17.0.31]) by neumann.typhon.ufal.br (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hACJGTP4087436; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:16:33 -0300 (BRT) (envelope-from left@typhon.ufal.br) Message-ID: <3FB25CFD.10900@typhon.ufal.br> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:17:01 +0000 From: Luiz Eugenio Fernandes Tenorio Organization: Typhon Project - Universidade Federal de Alagoas User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4.1) Gecko/20031015 X-Accept-Language: pt-br, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rayson Ho CC: bioclusters@bioinformatics.org, beowulf , Linux Cluster , List Subject: Re: Linux vs FreeBSD clusters References: <20031107005951.2157.qmail@web11407.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031107005951.2157.qmail@web11407.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,PORN_4 version=2.20 X-Spam-Level: X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: linux-cluster-bounce@nl.linux.org Errors-to: linux-cluster-bounce@nl.linux.org X-original-sender: left@typhon.ufal.br Precedence: bulk List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: linux-cluster Return-Path: X-Envelope-To: <"| /bin/marchive -a -m -f /home/majordomo/public_html/linux-cluster/folders/linux-cluster"> (uid 0) X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-cluster-archive@nl.linux.org Original-Recipient: rfc822;linux-cluster-archive@nl.linux.org Hi, We have a 64 node cluster entire based on FreeBSD 5.1 for high performance computing at the Federal University of Alagoas (http://www.typhon.ufal.br). It has 36 Dell Pentium IV 2.4GHz nodes and 36 Gateway Atlhon 1GHz using a fast-ethernet network (the peak performance for Dell machines, measured with xhpl, is 37 Gflops). Applications may use MPI for inter-process communication. For the cluster management we are testing the Ganglia (http://ganglia.sourceforge.net) and for scheduling the Maui (http://supercluster.org/maui). []'s left Rayson Ho wrote: > A very good paper about building HPC clusters with FreeBSD: > > "Building a High-performance Computing Cluster Using FreeBSD" > > http://people.freebsd.org/~brooks/papers/bsdcon2003/ > > The author talked about hardware issues: KVM, BIOS redirection, CPU > choices; and then talked about why he chose FreeBSD instead of Linux... > he also did the port of GridEngine (SGE) to FreeBSD. > > Anyone tried to setup HPC clusters with *BSD?? > > Rayson > > > --- Fernan Aguero wrote: > >>Any FreeBSD users willing to share clustering experiences >>out there? >> >>Fernan > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" - Linux-cluster: generic cluster infrastructure for Linux Archive: http://mail.nl.linux.org/linux-cluster/ From linux-cluster-bounce@nl.linux.org Sun Nov 16 00:24:19 2003 Received: from localhost.nl.linux.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]:23512 "EHLO humbolt.") by humbolt.nl.linux.org with ESMTP id S23902AbTKOXXe (ORCPT ); Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:23:34 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list linux-cluster); Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:23:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from dsl-200-95-71-251.prodigy.net.mx ([IPv6:::ffff:200.95.71.251]:53003 "HELO 202.141.233.194") by humbolt.nl.linux.org with SMTP id S23792AbTKOWde (ORCPT ); Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:33:34 +0100 From: "msk" To: Subject: Affordable Housecleaning Service/First Time 20% Off Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:33:35 -0600 Reply-To: "msk" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-Id: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.6 required=5.0 tests=DEAR_SOMEBODY,EXCUSE_3,EXCUSE_7 version=2.20 X-Spam-Level: *** X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: linux-cluster-bounce@nl.linux.org Errors-to: linux-cluster-bounce@nl.linux.org X-original-sender: ma1016s@fromru.com Precedence: bulk List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: linux-cluster Return-Path: X-Envelope-To: <"| /bin/marchive -a -m -f /home/majordomo/public_html/linux-cluster/folders/linux-cluster"> (uid 0) X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-cluster-archive@nl.linux.org Original-Recipient: rfc822;linux-cluster-archive@nl.linux.org Dear Los Angeles Resident: Hi, we are a housecleaning company servicing your area for over 10 years. Our workers are professional trained ladies, licensed, insured and bonded. Our prices are very affordable, and right now we are offering 20% off to first time customers. Also, we work with Realtors and R.E. Management companies to clean: Move Ins, Move Outs, Open Houses and More. If you are interested and would like to get some more information or set an appointment, please give us a call to our office telephone number (310) 823-8356. We work from Monday thru Saturday 8am to 5pm Thank you, Master Kleen (310) 823-8356 RATES* Apt Apt House 1 Bdr + 1 Bthr $ 40 $ 50 2 Bdr + 2 Bthr $ 50 $ 60 3 Bdr + 2 Bthr $ 60 $ 65 * Some restrictions apply depending upon size, sq. ft., stories and pets. **If you wish to be REMOVED from our future mailings, send an email to no4me@fromru.com - Linux-cluster: generic cluster infrastructure for Linux Archive: http://mail.nl.linux.org/linux-cluster/ From linux-cluster-bounce@nl.linux.org Tue Nov 25 05:31:26 2003 Received: from localhost.nl.linux.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]:42715 "EHLO humbolt.") by humbolt.nl.linux.org with ESMTP id S17277AbTKYEbT (ORCPT ); Tue, 25 Nov 2003 05:31:19 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list linux-cluster); Tue, 25 Nov 2003 05:31:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from [IPv6:::ffff:80.88.131.236] ([IPv6:::ffff:80.88.131.236]:23822 "HELO hellrimore1939.com") by humbolt.nl.linux.org with SMTP id S17344AbTKYEaX convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Tue, 25 Nov 2003 05:30:23 +0100 From: "Luisa Estrada" Reply-To: l_p_estrada@rediffmail.com To: linux-cluster@nl.linux.org Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 04:30:20 +0000 Subject: A LETTER FROM PHILIPPINES. X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Message-Id: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS version=2.20 X-Spam-Level: * X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: linux-cluster-bounce@nl.linux.org Errors-to: linux-cluster-bounce@nl.linux.org X-original-sender: l_p_estrada@tiscali.co.uk Precedence: bulk List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: linux-cluster Return-Path: X-Envelope-To: <"| /bin/marchive -a -m -f /home/majordomo/public_html/linux-cluster/folders/linux-cluster"> (uid 0) X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-cluster-archive@nl.linux.org Original-Recipient: rfc822;linux-cluster-archive@nl.linux.org Dear friend, It is with heartfelt hope that I write to seek your co-operation and assistance in the context stated below: May I first introduce myself: I am Senator Luisa Pimentel Estrada,the first wife of Joseph Ejercito Estrada(former head of state and President of Philippines) who is presently held in detention in a hospital outside manilla,Philippines. I got your contact from the internet during the course of my search for a reliable foreigner who will assist me in receiving the sum of US$17Million secretly deposited in my favour by my Husband. This money was kept with a Security Company in Amsterdam and I have all documents with me as of when it was deposited in a Security Vault for safe keeping. We have been deliberating on how to invest this fund abroad in a confidential manner until we came to a conclusion to use it to buy estates and part of it will be used for non-speculative investments in your country. However,the current administration of Gloria Arroyo(The President of Philippines) is seeking the death of my husband.In pursuit of this vendetta,the present Government have resolved to freeze all known assets of Joseph Ejercito Estrada including properties at home and abroad and are presently embarking on to seize the various bank accounts of my Husband in Switzerland,UK and Australia. In fact, the attack on our family (The Estrada's) is so devastated to an extent of seizing our travelling passport,family accounts,trying some members of our family in court for offences allegedly committed by my Husband and even restrict us from seeing my husband. My son was released from detention on the agreement to refund $1.5 million to the Government of Philippines allegedly stolen by my Husband. You can find this on; We are not ready to comply to this as most of the family assets and bank accounts abroad have been Frozen by the Arroyo regime. In view of this grevious threat to our Economic and personal survival, our family trustee have secretly protected the deposit, you are to assits us travelling to Amsterdam to lay claims of the consignment with the aid of all legal documents that will be forwarded to you as time goes on. In the meantime,there is a travelling embargo on the family members and our local accounts are seized as well as our telephone lines have been bugged.For this reason,telephone conversation will not be an ideal means of communication because our calls will be recorded.We are currently being catered for by the Government of Philippines in other to monitor and control our financial activities. We cannot be held responsible for the sins of my Husband. In view of this plight, I expect you to be trustworthy and kind enough to respond to this distressed call to save our family from a hopeless future.And if you agree to help, we shall discuss the disbursement ratio in our next correspondence after we have been acquainted. I look forward to your quick response while thanking you for your co-operation. In view of all above details, I request you to keep this letter and co-operation highly confidential even if you are not interested. Best wishes, Senator Luisa Pimentel Estrada. NB: Please note that email correspondence will be safer due to the fact that all our phone lines have been bugged. If you are intreasted in this proposal please send all further email correspondence to l_p_estrada@rediffmail.com - Linux-cluster: generic cluster infrastructure for Linux Archive: http://mail.nl.linux.org/linux-cluster/