From linux-cluster-bounce@nl.linux.org Mon Feb 11 15:11:33 2002 Received: from localhost.nl.linux.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]:48267 "EHLO humbolt.") by humbolt.nl.linux.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 15:11:28 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list linux-cluster); Mon, 11 Feb 2002 15:10:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from [IPv6:::ffff:202.41.97.131] ([IPv6:::ffff:202.41.97.131]:61708 "EHLO e-eihq01.eis.ernet.in") by humbolt.nl.linux.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 15:10:21 +0100 Received: from uucp-relay-delhi.ernet.in by e-eihq01.eis.ernet.in (8.10.2/1.1.2.10/13Jul01-0336PM) id g1BEMkA0000017344; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 19:22:46 +0500 (GMT+0500) Received: by uucp-relay-delhi.ernet.in (8.9.3+Sun/SMI-4.1-MHS-7.0) id TAA10952; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 19:38:11 -0500 (GMT) >Received: from cancer.cdotd.ernet.in by cdotd.cdotd.ernet.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA23833; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 19:00:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3C67C89E.7937CF0E@cdotd.ernet.in> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 19:05:27 +0530 From: manish rathi Organization: C-DOT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; HP-UX B.11.00 9000/785) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-cluster@nl.linux.org Subject: help Received: from cdotd by vikram.doe.ernet.in; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 19:38 GMT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------93BD259242B917F744D7D025" X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: linux-cluster-bounce@nl.linux.org Errors-to: linux-cluster-bounce@nl.linux.org X-original-sender: rathi@cdotd.ernet.in Precedence: bulk List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: linux-cluster Return-Path: X-Envelope-To: <"| /bin/marchive -a -m -f /home/majordomo/public_html/linux-cluster/folders/linux-cluster"> (uid 0) X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-cluster-archive@nl.linux.org Original-Recipient: rfc822;linux-cluster-archive@nl.linux.org --------------93BD259242B917F744D7D025 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, cd u guide me how to learn abt clustering in linux. Thanks Regds Manish -- Things work out best for those who make the best use of it. --------------93BD259242B917F744D7D025 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------F79C2707F401C6A7323DC533" --------------F79C2707F401C6A7323DC533 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi,
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There are at least a dozen ways to cluster Linux boxes with totally different goals in mind. What kind of clustering do you want to do? A few possibilities are: 1) Director Based (usually used for static web content) (i.e. LVS) 2) Fail-over between 2 nodes. (i.e. I think Heartbeat, Failsafe, Kimberlite, and Mission Critical Linux all do this.) 3) Active-Active of a small number of nodes. (i.e. SSI-Linux (alpha quality code only currently), maybe others) 4) Performance clusters (i.e. Beowulf and others, I know very little about this) Once you say what is you want to do, maybe someone can point you towards a reasonable technology. BTW: about 18 months ago I started to put some background stuff on our companies website you might find useful. If is definitely preliminary, and at this point it is getting dated, but it might be worth scanning: http://www.norcrossgroup.com/Documents/Clusters/types.htm Greg Freemyer Internet Engineer Deployment and Integration Specialist The Norcross Group www.NorcrossGroup.com - Linux-cluster: generic cluster infrastructure for Linux Archive: http://mail.nl.linux.org/linux-cluster/ From linux-cluster-bounce@nl.linux.org Fri Feb 15 18:44:20 2002 Received: from localhost.nl.linux.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]:3999 "EHLO humbolt.") by humbolt.nl.linux.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 18:43:33 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list linux-cluster); Fri, 15 Feb 2002 18:42:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from web11401.mail.yahoo.com ([IPv6:::ffff:216.136.131.231]:25116 "HELO web11401.mail.yahoo.com") by humbolt.nl.linux.org with SMTP id ; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 18:42:30 +0100 Message-ID: <20020215174228.32133.qmail@web11401.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.43.32.161] by web11401.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 09:42:28 PST Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 09:42:28 -0800 (PST) From: Rayson Ho Subject: Maui Newsletter -- Feb 2002 To: Linux Cluster , beowulf@beowulf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-405036940-1013794948=:31083" X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: linux-cluster-bounce@nl.linux.org Errors-to: linux-cluster-bounce@nl.linux.org X-original-sender: raysonlogin@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: linux-cluster Return-Path: X-Envelope-To: <"| /bin/marchive -a -m -f /home/majordomo/public_html/linux-cluster/folders/linux-cluster"> (uid 0) X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-cluster-archive@nl.linux.org Original-Recipient: rfc822;linux-cluster-archive@nl.linux.org --0-405036940-1013794948=:31083 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii http://supercluster.org/maui/newsletters/feb2002.html Rayson --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? 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Video Mail --0-405036940-1013794948=:31083-- - Linux-cluster: generic cluster infrastructure for Linux Archive: http://mail.nl.linux.org/linux-cluster/ From linux-cluster-bounce@nl.linux.org Tue Feb 26 23:22:58 2002 Received: from localhost.nl.linux.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]:26313 "EHLO humbolt.") by humbolt.nl.linux.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 23:22:46 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list linux-cluster); Tue, 26 Feb 2002 23:22:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from [IPv6:::ffff:198.144.200.82] ([IPv6:::ffff:198.144.200.82]:8832 "EHLO synapse.neuralscape.com") by humbolt.nl.linux.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 23:21:56 +0100 Received: (from shaeffer@localhost) by synapse.neuralscape.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g1QEeqE02692 for linux-cluster@nl.linux.org; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 06:40:52 -0800 Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 06:40:52 -0800 From: Karen Shaeffer To: linux-cluster@nl.linux.org Subject: cluster hardware Message-ID: <20020226064052.A2676@synapse.neuralscape.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: linux-cluster-bounce@nl.linux.org Errors-to: linux-cluster-bounce@nl.linux.org X-original-sender: shaeffer@neuralscape.com Precedence: bulk List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: linux-cluster Return-Path: X-Envelope-To: <"| /bin/marchive -a -m -f /home/majordomo/public_html/linux-cluster/folders/linux-cluster"> (uid 0) X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-cluster-archive@nl.linux.org Original-Recipient: rfc822;linux-cluster-archive@nl.linux.org Hi folks, I'm knew to the list and wonder if this is a good forum for my current interests. I am in the process of selecting hardware for a linux cluster I will build in the next month. My intent is to build it myself and run a modified linux distribution on it. I would be interested in comments from others who are working with linux clusters. Is this email list a good place for me concerning this matter? cheers, Karen -- Karen Shaeffer Neuralscape; Santa Cruz, Ca. 95060 shaeffer@neuralscape.com http://www.neuralscape.com - Linux-cluster: generic cluster infrastructure for Linux Archive: http://mail.nl.linux.org/linux-cluster/ From linux-cluster-bounce@nl.linux.org Wed Feb 27 10:26:20 2002 Received: from localhost.nl.linux.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]:42153 "EHLO humbolt.") by humbolt.nl.linux.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 10:26:06 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list linux-cluster); Wed, 27 Feb 2002 10:25:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from 212.68.239.249.brutele.be ([IPv6:::ffff:212.68.239.249]:62394 "EHLO disk.jungers.net") by humbolt.nl.linux.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 10:25:32 +0100 Received: from nj by disk.jungers.net with local (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16g0Ki-0007q0-00; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 10:25:08 +0100 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 10:25:07 +0100 From: Nicolas Jungers To: Karen Shaeffer Cc: linux-cluster@nl.linux.org Subject: Re: cluster hardware Message-ID: <20020227092507.GA29761@disk.jungers.net> References: <20020226064052.A2676@synapse.neuralscape.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020226064052.A2676@synapse.neuralscape.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: linux-cluster-bounce@nl.linux.org Errors-to: linux-cluster-bounce@nl.linux.org X-original-sender: nicolas@linkline.be Precedence: bulk List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: linux-cluster Return-Path: X-Envelope-To: <"| /bin/marchive -a -m -f /home/majordomo/public_html/linux-cluster/folders/linux-cluster"> (uid 0) X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-cluster-archive@nl.linux.org Original-Recipient: rfc822;linux-cluster-archive@nl.linux.org this list is near dead. Anyway, it's a question of budget. if yoy're really power hungry, think alpha, if you want to save some money go athlon and finally if network performance is not a key, go GE (even multiple) instead of Myrinet. If you go the GE way, don't spend much on your GE hardware. Myrinet is really good and not so expensive. Avoid the outrageous price of cisco and the like, use cheap netgears for switches or 3com. Of course is network is really not important you can go FE :-) finally, what's the size and use of your cluster? Nicolas On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 06:40:52AM -0800, Karen Shaeffer wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'm knew to the list and wonder if this is a good forum for my current > interests. I am in the process of selecting hardware for a linux cluster I > will build in the next month. My intent is to build it myself and run a > modified linux distribution on it. I would be interested in comments from > others who are working with linux clusters. > > Is this email list a good place for me concerning this matter? > > cheers, > Karen > -- > Karen Shaeffer > Neuralscape; Santa Cruz, Ca. 95060 > shaeffer@neuralscape.com http://www.neuralscape.com > - > Linux-cluster: generic cluster infrastructure for Linux > Archive: http://mail.nl.linux.org/linux-cluster/ > > -- Nicolas Jungers - Linux-cluster: generic cluster infrastructure for Linux Archive: http://mail.nl.linux.org/linux-cluster/