From owner-linux-aviation@nl.linux.org Fri Apr 27 19:17:47 2001 Received: by humbolt.nl.linux.org id ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 19:16:06 +0200 Received: from mrelay.cc.umr.edu ([131.151.1.89]:62480 "EHLO smtp.umr.edu") by humbolt.nl.linux.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 19:13:04 +0200 Received: from umr-mail01.cc.umr.edu (umr-mail01.cc.umr.edu [131.151.1.108]) via ESMTP by mrelay.cc.umr.edu (8.9.3/R.4.20) id MAA28540; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:12:52 -0500 Received: by umr-mail01.cc.umr.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:12:52 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Neulinger, Nathan" To: "'linux-aviation@nl.linux.org'" Subject: FW: Your downloadable directory... Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:12:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-linux-aviation@nl.linux.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: linux-aviation@nl.linux.org Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-aviation-list I think this is rather poor... especially the comment about piracy... I anyone here is interested in collaboration on reverse engineering the data format of the databases so it won't require windows to use, let me know, and I'll be happy to work on it with ya. -- Nathan -----Original Message----- From: Smith, Machteld [mailto:Machteld.Smith@aopa.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 2:43 PM To: 'Nathan Neulinger' Subject: RE: Your downloadable directory... Dear Nathan, Thanks for the offer. The application will be an executable as we do not want to provide our "raw" database for public consumption and open to pirating. Our intent is that members can download the files to their PC, and sort, print, and sync data to their PDA, and eventually receive updates that will install "invisibly" to their computers. I'm no computer expert by any means, but the firm who is helping us with the project has invested considerable thought and time in the project in order to help us provide the best possible application for use by AOPA members. Best regards, Machteld Smith ------------------------------------------------- Director--AOPA's Airport Directory 301/695-2357 machteld.smith@aopa.org -----Original Message----- From: Nathan Neulinger [mailto:nneul@umr.edu] Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 11:23 AM To: AirportDirectory Subject: Your downloadable directory... When you make it downloadable to the PC, please do not JUST make it an .exe. It would be highly appreciated if you would also make the raw data downloadable by itself for those of us who choose to use an operating system other than microsoft windows. In fact, I would recommend that you make the 'application download' distinct from the 'data download' for the PC and PDA apps any way, that way people don't have to download a new executable just to update their databases. If you would like any additional information or suggestions about how to structure the data, etc. please feel free to contact me, I'll be more than happy to provide any assistance necessary, including making a Unix/Linux application to view the airport data equivalent to your windows version if you are interested. -- Nathan ------------------------------------------------------------ Nathan Neulinger EMail: nneul@umr.edu University of Missouri - Rolla Phone: (573) 341-4841 CIS - Systems Programming Fax: (573) 341-4216 - Archives of linux-aviation: http://mail.nl.linux.org/lists/linux-aviation/ To unsubscribe: send the command "unsubscribe linux-aviation" in the body of a mail message to . From owner-linux-aviation@nl.linux.org Fri Apr 27 21:00:01 2001 Received: by humbolt.nl.linux.org id ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 20:59:15 +0200 Received: from vector.edaind.com ([209.41.237.2]:31246 "EHLO Vector.edaind.com") by humbolt.nl.linux.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 20:57:42 +0200 Received: from acura (accura.edaind.com [209.41.237.18]) by Vector.edaind.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA04669 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 14:53:47 -0400 From: "Gregory W. Ratcliff" To: Subject: RE: Your downloadable directory... Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 15:02:19 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-linux-aviation@nl.linux.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: linux-aviation@nl.linux.org Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-aviation-list I wonder if this would be tough at all anyway? If they are shortsighted enough to only think in Windows terms, they probably are just using Excel! GregR -----Original Message----- From: owner-linux-aviation@nl.linux.org [mailto:owner-linux-aviation@nl.linux.org]On Behalf Of Neulinger, Nathan Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 1:13 PM To: 'linux-aviation@nl.linux.org' Subject: FW: Your downloadable directory... I think this is rather poor... especially the comment about piracy... I anyone here is interested in collaboration on reverse engineering the data format of the databases so it won't require windows to use, let me know, and I'll be happy to work on it with ya. -- Nathan -----Original Message----- From: Smith, Machteld [mailto:Machteld.Smith@aopa.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 2:43 PM To: 'Nathan Neulinger' Subject: RE: Your downloadable directory... Dear Nathan, Thanks for the offer. The application will be an executable as we do not want to provide our "raw" database for public consumption and open to pirating. Our intent is that members can download the files to their PC, and sort, print, and sync data to their PDA, and eventually receive updates that will install "invisibly" to their computers. I'm no computer expert by any means, but the firm who is helping us with the project has invested considerable thought and time in the project in order to help us provide the best possible application for use by AOPA members. Best regards, Machteld Smith ------------------------------------------------- Director--AOPA's Airport Directory 301/695-2357 machteld.smith@aopa.org -----Original Message----- From: Nathan Neulinger [mailto:nneul@umr.edu] Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 11:23 AM To: AirportDirectory Subject: Your downloadable directory... When you make it downloadable to the PC, please do not JUST make it an .exe. It would be highly appreciated if you would also make the raw data downloadable by itself for those of us who choose to use an operating system other than microsoft windows. In fact, I would recommend that you make the 'application download' distinct from the 'data download' for the PC and PDA apps any way, that way people don't have to download a new executable just to update their databases. If you would like any additional information or suggestions about how to structure the data, etc. please feel free to contact me, I'll be more than happy to provide any assistance necessary, including making a Unix/Linux application to view the airport data equivalent to your windows version if you are interested. -- Nathan ------------------------------------------------------------ Nathan Neulinger EMail: nneul@umr.edu University of Missouri - Rolla Phone: (573) 341-4841 CIS - Systems Programming Fax: (573) 341-4216 - Archives of linux-aviation: http://mail.nl.linux.org/lists/linux-aviation/ To unsubscribe: send the command "unsubscribe linux-aviation" in the body of a mail message to . - Archives of linux-aviation: http://mail.nl.linux.org/lists/linux-aviation/ To unsubscribe: send the command "unsubscribe linux-aviation" in the body of a mail message to . From owner-linux-aviation@nl.linux.org Fri Apr 27 22:00:18 2001 Received: by humbolt.nl.linux.org id ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 21:59:25 +0200 Received: from user-vc8f9al.biz.mindspring.com ([216.135.165.85]:41624 "EHLO mather.skypilot.com") by humbolt.nl.linux.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 21:58:35 +0200 Received: from robert.lloyd.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mather.skypilot.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8163156B08 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:57:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010427125722.042959c8@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: brian@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:58:15 -0700 To: linux-aviation@nl.linux.org From: Brian Lloyd Subject: RE: Your downloadable directory... In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-linux-aviation@nl.linux.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: linux-aviation@nl.linux.org Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-aviation-list At 12:02 PM 4/27/2001, you wrote: >I wonder if this would be tough at all anyway? If they >are shortsighted enough to only think in Windows terms, >they probably are just using Excel! Excel runs on Mac too. StarOffice will handle Excel sheets on Linux if that is what they are doing but I wouldn't bet money on it. Brian Lloyd brian@lloyd.com +1.530.676.1113 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax - Archives of linux-aviation: http://mail.nl.linux.org/lists/linux-aviation/ To unsubscribe: send the command "unsubscribe linux-aviation" in the body of a mail message to .