From owner-linux-aviation@nl.linux.org Mon Oct 2 08:00:38 2000 Received: by humbolt.nl.linux.org id ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 08:00:01 +0200 Received: from cpimssmtpu08.email.msn.com ([207.46.181.30]:44038 "EHLO smtp.email.msn.com") by humbolt.nl.linux.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 07:59:30 +0200 Received: from qwerty - 63.15.180.118 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 22:58:35 -0700 Message-ID: <000a01c02c36$d3ca98e0$76b40f3f@qwerty> From: "tdale4" To: Subject: New to the list Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 01:05:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C02C0C.E9F8CBC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-linux-aviation@nl.linux.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: linux-aviation@nl.linux.org Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-aviation-list This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C02C0C.E9F8CBC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm new to the list and just wanted to say hello to everyone as a test = message. Tim Dale ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C02C0C.E9F8CBC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'm new to the list and just = wanted to say=20 hello to everyone as a test message.

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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C02C0C.E9F8CBC0-- - Archives of linux-aviation: http://mail.nl.linux.org/lists/linux-aviation/ To unsubscribe: send the command "unsubscribe linux-aviation" in the body of a mail message to . From owner-linux-aviation@nl.linux.org Mon Oct 2 12:00:55 2000 Received: by humbolt.nl.linux.org id ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 12:00:08 +0200 Received: from cpimssmtpu08.email.msn.com ([207.46.181.30]:21004 "EHLO smtp.email.msn.com") by humbolt.nl.linux.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 11:59:32 +0200 Received: from qwerty - 63.15.180.118 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 02:58:32 -0700 Message-ID: <000901c02c58$59e68e40$76b40f3f@qwerty> From: "tdale4" To: References: <000a01c02c36$d3ca98e0$76b40f3f@qwerty> Subject: "glass cockpit" EFIS system? Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 05:05:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C02C2E.700B9960" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-linux-aviation@nl.linux.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: linux-aviation@nl.linux.org Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-aviation-list This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C02C2E.700B9960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would like to implement an EFIS system, one that has a moving map = display, auto pilot, electronic instruments, etc all running on a linux = powered laptop. Is anyone else working on such a system? What are your = ideas on this, I know it'll be difficult, but not impossible. = Suggestions?? Dave Morris has an exellent example on his webpage = http://www.davemorris.com/dave/dfly-fms.html of the kind of system I = would like to make. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C02C2E.700B9960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I would like to implement an EFIS = system, one that=20 has a moving map display, auto pilot, electronic instruments, etc all = running on=20 a linux powered laptop. Is anyone else working on such a system? What = are your=20 ideas on this, I know it'll be difficult, but not impossible. = Suggestions?? Dave=20 Morris has an exellent example on his webpage http://www.davemorr= is.com/dave/dfly-fms.html of=20 the kind of system I would like to make.

------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C02C2E.700B9960-- - Archives of linux-aviation: http://mail.nl.linux.org/lists/linux-aviation/ To unsubscribe: send the command "unsubscribe linux-aviation" in the body of a mail message to . From owner-linux-aviation@nl.linux.org Mon Oct 2 12:52:07 2000 Received: by humbolt.nl.linux.org id ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 12:51:26 +0200 Received: from f-215-117.cvx.ipdial.viaginterkom.de ([62.180.215.117]:31243 "EHLO lrz.uni-muenchen.de") by humbolt.nl.linux.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 12:50:53 +0200 Received: (from eugene.leitl@localhost) by lrz.uni-muenchen.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA02607; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 01:59:38 -0700 From: Eugene Leitl MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14808.20090.725007.965097@lrz.uni-muenchen.de> Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 01:59:38 -0700 (PDT) To: linux-aviation@nl.linux.org Subject: "glass cockpit" EFIS system? In-Reply-To: <000901c02c58$59e68e40$76b40f3f@qwerty> References: <000a01c02c36$d3ca98e0$76b40f3f@qwerty> <000901c02c58$59e68e40$76b40f3f@qwerty> X-Mailer: VM 6.71 under 21.1 (patch 4) "Arches" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-linux-aviation@nl.linux.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: linux-aviation@nl.linux.org Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-aviation-list Please don't use HTML in mails to public mailing lists. tdale4 writes: > I would like to implement an EFIS system, one that has a moving map display, auto pilot, electronic instruments, etc all running on a linux powered laptop. Is anyone else working on such a system? What are your ideas on this, I know it'll be difficult, but not impossible. Suggestions?? Dave Morris has an exellent example on his webpage http://www.davemorris.com/dave/dfly-fms.html of the kind of system I would like to make. > > > > > > > >

I would like to implement an EFIS system, one that > has a moving map display, auto pilot, electronic instruments, etc all running on > a linux powered laptop. Is anyone else working on such a system? What are your > ideas on this, I know it'll be difficult, but not impossible. Suggestions?? Dave > Morris has an exellent example on his webpage href="http://www.davemorris.com/dave/dfly-fms.html">http://www.davemorris.com/dave/dfly-fms.html of > the kind of system I would like to make.

- Archives of linux-aviation: http://mail.nl.linux.org/lists/linux-aviation/ To unsubscribe: send the command "unsubscribe linux-aviation" in the body of a mail message to . From owner-linux-aviation@nl.linux.org Mon Oct 2 15:59:58 2000 Received: by humbolt.nl.linux.org id ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 15:59:31 +0200 Received: from mail.me.umn.edu ([128.101.141.206]:64775 "EHLO mail.me.umn.edu") by humbolt.nl.linux.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 15:58:56 +0200 Received: from bofh.me.umn.edu (root@bofh.me.umn.edu [128.101.140.133]) by mail.me.umn.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21898 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 08:58:44 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from curt@me.umn.edu) Received: (from curt@localhost) by bofh.me.umn.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id IAA27229; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 08:58:43 -0500 From: "Curtis L. Olson" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14808.38035.851468.19813@bofh.me.umn.edu> Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 08:58:43 -0500 (CDT) To: linux-aviation@nl.linux.org Subject: Re: "glass cockpit" EFIS system? In-Reply-To: <000901c02c58$59e68e40$76b40f3f@qwerty> References: <000a01c02c36$d3ca98e0$76b40f3f@qwerty> <000901c02c58$59e68e40$76b40f3f@qwerty> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 19.34.1 Sender: owner-linux-aviation@nl.linux.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: linux-aviation@nl.linux.org Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-aviation-list tdale4 writes: > I would like to implement an EFIS system, one that has a moving map > display, auto pilot, electronic instruments, etc all running on a > linux powered laptop. Is anyone else working on such a system? What > are your ideas on this, I know it'll be difficult, but not > impossible. Suggestions?? Dave Morris has an exellent example on his > webpage http://www.davemorris.com/dave/dfly-fms.html of the kind of > system I would like to make. Tdale4, Here's a couple thoughts for you. First of all, you should take a look at the "Atlas" moving map program at http://altas.sourceforge.net -- This is a moving map program that can draw background terrain bitmaps (or any arbitrary bitmaps I suppose.) It can overlay airport and navaid data, and it can show your flight track. It's a rather nifty little program. It comes with a utility that can generate background bitmaps based off of scenery from the flightgear project (http://www.flightgear.org) The results can be quite impressive. As the coordinator of the flightgear project, I suppose I must put in my obligatory plug for our project. :-) As an open source sim, you have unprecidented access to the internals of the software. It may be that you eventually want to develop your system for real flight (?) but flightgear might provide you a great platform for testing out your code. FlightGear can output NMEA and Garmin gps strings, it can output several other formats as well (via network or serial port.) Note that flightgear and atlas can currently work together via a network or serial port connection. Currently we are working on developing a "generic" approach that will allow remote access and control over all the important internal flightgear variables via a simple network connection such as telnet. You'll be able to "cd" through the variable hierarchy, and view/set all the variables. Good luck on your project, Curt. -- Curtis Olson Human Factors Research Lab Flight Gear Project Twin Cities curt@hfrl.umn.edu curt@flightgear.org Minnesota http://www.menet.umn.edu/~curt http://www.flightgear.org - Archives of linux-aviation: http://mail.nl.linux.org/lists/linux-aviation/ To unsubscribe: send the command "unsubscribe linux-aviation" in the body of a mail message to . From owner-linux-aviation@nl.linux.org Mon Oct 2 19:00:54 2000 Received: by humbolt.nl.linux.org id ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 19:00:06 +0200 Received: from terra.geo.uu.nl ([131.211.29.16]:42964 "EHLO terra.geo.uu.nl") by humbolt.nl.linux.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 18:59:56 +0200 Received: from shell13.ba.best.com (root@shell13.ba.best.com [206.184.139.144]) by terra.geo.uu.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3/TvZ) with ESMTP id SAA24856 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 18:59:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from jerryk@localhost) by shell13.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.sh) id JAA29750 for linux-aviation@nl.linux.org; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 09:57:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Jerome Kaidor Message-Id: <200010021657.JAA29750@shell13.ba.best.com> Subject: Re: "glass cockpit" EFIS system? In-Reply-To: <14808.38035.851468.19813@bofh.me.umn.edu> from "Curtis L. Olson" at "Oct 2, 0 08:58:43 am" To: linux-aviation@nl.linux.org Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 09:57:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-aviation@nl.linux.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: linux-aviation@nl.linux.org Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-aviation-list > As the coordinator of the flightgear project, I suppose I must put in > my obligatory plug for our project. :-) > *** Hello, A quick Q for you; does Flightgear at this time simulate the magnetic compass? By "simulate", I mean it should tilt when you bank, lead South, lag north, all of that stuff. - Jerry Kaidor ( jerry@tr2.com ) - Archives of linux-aviation: http://mail.nl.linux.org/lists/linux-aviation/ To unsubscribe: send the command "unsubscribe linux-aviation" in the body of a mail message to . From owner-linux-aviation@nl.linux.org Mon Oct 2 19:21:34 2000 Received: by humbolt.nl.linux.org id ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 19:21:05 +0200 Received: from mail.me.umn.edu ([128.101.141.206]:52751 "EHLO mail.me.umn.edu") by humbolt.nl.linux.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 19:20:49 +0200 Received: from bofh.me.umn.edu (root@bofh.me.umn.edu [128.101.140.133]) by mail.me.umn.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA31738 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 12:20:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from curt@me.umn.edu) Received: (from curt@localhost) by bofh.me.umn.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA28401; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 12:20:46 -0500 From: "Curtis L. Olson" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14808.50158.761433.124536@bofh.me.umn.edu> Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 12:20:46 -0500 (CDT) To: linux-aviation@nl.linux.org Subject: Re: "glass cockpit" EFIS system? In-Reply-To: <200010021657.JAA29750@shell13.ba.best.com> References: <14808.38035.851468.19813@bofh.me.umn.edu> <200010021657.JAA29750@shell13.ba.best.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 19.34.1 Sender: owner-linux-aviation@nl.linux.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: linux-aviation@nl.linux.org Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-aviation-list Jerome Kaidor writes: > > As the coordinator of the flightgear project, I suppose I must put in > > my obligatory plug for our project. :-) > > > *** Hello, > > A quick Q for you; does Flightgear at this time simulate the magnetic > compass? By "simulate", I mean it should tilt when you bank, lead South, > lag north, all of that stuff. Jerome, As I understand it, the answer is yes. It has momentum and all that stuff that makes it almost, but not quite entirely unusable. The guy who modeled it seemed to know a lot more about the effects than I do so I'm trusting his judgement. Feel free to try it out and see if it behaves as you'd expect. I'm sure that feed back from additional people who know how it should work in real life would be appreciated. Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olson Human Factors Research Lab Flight Gear Project Twin Cities curt@hfrl.umn.edu curt@flightgear.org Minnesota http://www.menet.umn.edu/~curt http://www.flightgear.org - Archives of linux-aviation: http://mail.nl.linux.org/lists/linux-aviation/ To unsubscribe: send the command "unsubscribe linux-aviation" in the body of a mail message to .