Re: Personal Java (was: Java)

[John Peterson <jaypee@netcom.com>]

On Mon, Mar 29, 1999 at 02:34:24PM +0000, Bob Deep wrote:
> John Peterson wrote:
> > 
> > On Fri, Mar 26, 1999 at 08:42:11PM +0000, Bob Deep wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Well, when my boss said, "Oh, and it has to run on these twelve different
> > > > platforms," I opted for Java.  The learning curve was steep and the
> > > > language was immature but it has gotten much better.  I think that, today,
> > > > you can do production work with it.
> > >
> > > Yea, you can.. At least I currently am...
> > >
> > > I see no real reason not to code any new application in Java if you meet
> > > the four following tests...
> > >
> > > 1. Your application does not need top computational performance in a
> > > small foot print..
> > > 2. You can get a VM for the platform.
> >      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > 
> >    Relatively speaking, I'm still a neophyte as far as Java goes. However,
> > I have taken an interest in the language because of the portability
> > aspect, Sun's vocal plans for using Java in the embedded market, and my
> > own personal interest in handheld computers for aviation usage.
> > 
> >    Can someone summarize what is going on in the area of Personal Java
> > on embedded devices?  As far as I can tell, "not much" sums it up.
> > Corel was talking about marketing a Personal Java based PDA which was
> > apparently shelved a year ago or so.
> 
> I beleive that a lot of this was put on hold as it was based on
> MicroSoft's CE (??) OS that was supposed to support Java programs native
> and run in a small foot print.  At this point M$ does not seem to be
> wanting to do anything with Java due to their lawsuit with Sun and the
> case with the DOJ and antitrust.  Don't blame them, but some development
> shops are up a creek without an OS at this point...
> 
   I guess this is good news and bad news. It's too bad that PJ is stalled
because of this, but then I (for one) am elated that M$ most likely won't
be involved.

   On the other hand, I don't think Java is dead in the embedded world.
I'm starting to dabble some with programming the Palm Pilot, and I find
Greg Hewgill's Jump translator an interesting approach. If anyone has
any experience with it, please let us know! It converts Java code into
68000 assembler, which can then be assembled into a .prc file. For
details, see

	http://www.hewgill.com/pilot/jump/index.html

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