Re: Not convincing yet (c vs c++)

[James Stevenson <james@stev.org>]

Hi

ok the linux kernel has quiet a lot of code in it.
Would you like to volutee to rewrite it all in c++.

Also the language has nothing todo with object orienated
programming so therefore its not simulated in c its still object
orientatated. Its been done like this for a long time and alot of people 
know how to write c in this form for drivers etc... Do you want to all of 
a suden stop development to move language which none of the developers 
really want to happen ? That will also have no benifits of doing in the 
first place.

Infact c++ would probably make the kernel significatly biggers.
Hint look at the windows kernel and how much ram it requires to
boot in win 2k / XP. I belive its done in C++

	James

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, nix wrote:

> Hi guys 
>            Well I read the faq and all the arguements but they are not 
> convinicing. They 'had' tried to make one kernel with c++ but it did not live 
> upto the expectations (space time drawbacks). The drawbacks are those of a 
> the "then" c++ compilers. the compilers must have been become better. There 
> is this Intel 7.0 c++ compier released which seems to be a competitor to the 
> Gnu's Compiler maybe with that one...(who knows). Conceptually c++ beats c 
> anytime, but is limited in the practicality (as semed in those days). Things 
> must have changed with the compiler technology and we must have better c++ 
> compilers now.
>          Other arguments that c code being better than c++ (all compiler 
> dependent and an age old myth; if anyone can prove this, then aggreed), many 
> c users etc, are not firmly based. So until one shows the advantages of a c++ 
> based kernel, c still rules. C is a subset of c++ and even linear logic with 
> functions and structures can be used. So i dont see why not go for it. 
>          What ultimately matters is concepts and applications of concepts. why 
> simulate object oriented concept in c when c++ already defines a clean way
> to do it. maybe the compiler is not good aggreed, fine. But with a farsighted 
> perspective it is only a matter of time we would have a vey good c++ 
> compiler. The code can still be ported, cant it? 
>           Thank you all the guys who sent me those links. I really appretiate 
> that. So THANK YOU.
> regards 
> nix
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