Re: [alliance] Fw: Freedows/Alliance Split: One Year Later

[arik devens <caelur@innocent.com>]

On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, you wrote:
> At 04:16 PM 8/12/99 +0200, you wrote:
> > > > > > *What progress has Alliance made in the past year?
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeeks.  Where to start?!  Tell ya what - I'm going to leave this one to
> > > > > the developers to answer!!!
> >
> ><SNIP>
> 
> I would have to concur that Ramon summed this up perfectly :-)

i agree as well ;-) good job ramon

> 
> > > > > > *Is Alliance still at the specification stage or is there actually
> > > > > > code?
> >
> >The current specs are awefully out of date.  I'm not writing any specs
> >until I feel that the CK design is stable.  We've abandoned writing
> >CK specs when we noticed that the code evolved faster than the specs
> >anyway.
> 
> Coding will always move ahead of the specifications now, we had to spec the 
> initial system, so we had a groundwork, or foundation. Now that this 
> exists, we have to code to meet the spec, modifying the spec as more and 
> more "reality" comes into play :-)
> 

heh, damn reality!!

> 
> > > > > > *What development model is Alliance currently using?
> > > > >
> > > > > You know, I'm not sure how it's classified at the moment <GRIN>
> >
> 
> Actually, technically, we're in a very closed model, until the development 
> of the CK and the SORB is more stable, plus most likely we'll need some 
> native compilers. It's not that we're turning away any developers, it's 
> just by the very fact that only three individuals are doing most of the 
> coding, that we are a closed system. anyone wishing to join in would have 
> to catch up with current stuff before they could do much coding. When the 
> system is useable (even marginally) then we'll be in a very open arrangement.
> 

hmm. well it is an open model conceptually but closed in practice cause of the
learning curve. ramon is most willing to help people start though.

> >Open.  To develop alliance, join the lists, pick something that you
> >like and start working on it.
> >
> > > > > > *When do you expect a final release?
> > > > >
> > > > > Final release?  Is there such a thing?  There will always be a 
> > million and
> > > > > one various things that will be added, etc., just like Linux.  It's 
> > never
> > > > > quite done.
> >
> >We're better off first working towards a working prototype :)
> 
> Agreed :-)

yep

> 
> > > > > > *What features does Alliance currently plan to include in the first
> > > > > > release?
> > > > >
> >What do you call a release ?  A "stable release" ?  I don't think
> >anybody
> >is thinking about that yet.  By the time alliance is ready for an
> >end-user
> >release, we'll probably just include whatever we have at the time :)
> 
> This would be complete conjecture at this point, i'm sure we'll get there 
> eventually :-)
> 

and we may all disagree. i will prob want more in that then ramon for example.

> 
> >I'm not even clear on what Lloyd's job is -- I think that his job
> >is to resolve any serious arguments if they come up.  Well, they
> >haven't :)
> 
> That's pretty much it until we have a large group of developers who will 
> need guidance, right now, with mostly the original coding team still in 
> place, we're just clicking along like always. (BTW, thanks for that 
> guys!!!!! :-) )
> 

no problem ;-)

> > > > > Now, I really have to cut this short - I will most
> > > > > certainly have a couple things I'd like to add later, but, I've got
> > > > > this red head girl friend who's doing everything in her power to make
> > > > > sure I get off the computer as soon as possible! <GRIN>
> >
> >Eww, Davis, I'm so jealous :-P
> 
> Me too :-)
> 

not me. long story though.

> 
> TTYS
> Lloyd
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arik
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